[Tsuko]

Originally posted by Sammi

It's 2016, forget about VEVO. The singles can't function properly without Spotify.

If I had to choose out of VEVO and Spotify, I'd choose VEVO any day.

Songs like Blank Space, Bad Blood went to #1 with VEVO but without Spotify. And with Rihanna's Unapologetic album Stay smashed with Youtube and no Spotify, and even Pour It Up did well on streaming with just audio/lyric videos on Youtube at the time (no Spotify and no official music video).

Either one is better than none of course.

Also, from the perspective of someone who own TIDAL, Spotify is a direct competitor, whilst VEVO/Youtube are competitors but not directly since they have a slightly different niche to TIDAL.

[bijonse]

its flat out stupid and illogical to not put the music with this "message" you want to push so badly out for casual listeners, not fans, to hear. what incentive to people have to buy her music if they cant listen to it anywhere first? and if you say TIDAL I'm going to ****ing rip my hair out

like yall need to get your heads out of her ass and realize not every decision she makes makes sense

[Floyd Mayweather]

Originally posted by 6_INCH_HEELS

People trying to think like Bey always look the fools. Y'all don't know what her strategy is, so stop trying to speak from her perspective. Clearly, someone on her team is considering how well the songs are doing. If she wanted the album to remain a complete body of work with the focus solely on the story being told, there would be no singles released period. Use your brains and do this thing called thinking, for yourselves, instead of trying to think like Bey. You are not her. Quit it.

[Slayonce]

Originally posted by sadnews

Her album sales is fine.
She have #1 urban, and top15 rhythmic hits.

Don't act like her music is nowhere.

The rest of the world doesn't have urban and rhythmic radios. Get out of your american bubble. Like Jeez.

And the rest of the world sure does not have FLOPDAL. That I can guarantee.

[Shelter]

Originally posted by 6_INCH_HEELS

People trying to think like Bey always look the fools. Y'all don't know what her strategy is, so stop trying to speak from her perspective. Clearly, someone on her team is considering how well the songs are doing. If she wanted the album to remain a complete body of work with the focus solely on the story being told, there would be no singles released period. Use your brains and do this thing called thinking, for yourselves, instead of trying to think like Bey. You are not her. Quit it.

It's all about Tidal. She is just giving them the exclusive over streaming. Tidal streams are going down now though.

I heard Freedom on the radio today.

[6_INCH_HEELS]

Originally posted by Boyz N the Woods

And the tracks would have been album only on Itunes.

A little louder for the bumblebees in the back.

[Signs]

Plus if she's so anti streaming why is her work on tidal? Tidal WANTS to be Spotify. If Tidal somehow was successful at launch and managed to overtake Spotify today, she would still be happy releasing her music on the world's largest streaming service. So she's got no clear and coherent principle/sentiment anyway.

[bijonse]

Originally posted by Slayonce

The rest of the world doesn't have urban and rhythmic radios. Get out of your american bubble. Like Jeez.

And the rest of the world sure does not have FLOPDAL. That I can guarantee.

America doesn't even have tidal

[Shelter]

Originally posted by Tsuko

If I had to choose out of VEVO and Spotify, I'd choose VEVO any day.

Songs like Blank Space, Bad Blood went to #1 with VEVO but without Spotify. And with Rihanna's Unapologetic album Stay smashed with Youtube and no Spotify, and even Pour It Up did well on streaming with just audio/lyric videos on Youtube at the time (no Spotify and no official music video).

Either one is better than none of course.

Also, from the perspective of someone who own TIDAL, Spotify is a direct competitor, whilst VEVO/Youtube are competitors but not directly since they have a slightly different niche to TIDAL.

Sammi is on about WW. Spotify has taken over the charts. I don't think VEVO counts WW.

All the co owners of Tidal are on Spotify. They just don't care so she shouldn't either.

[KORDEI]

Originally posted by bijonse

its flat out stupid and illogical to not put the music with this "message" you want to push so badly out for casual listeners, not fans, to hear. what incentive to people have to buy her music if they cant listen to it anywhere first? and if you say TIDAL I'm going to ****ing rip my hair out

like yall need to get your heads out of her ass and realize not every decision she makes makes sense

Especially since TIDAL isn't available WW. They are literally using these exclusives to force us to subscribe. That is NOT how you cater to consumers.

[Iman]

Originally posted by bijonse

its flat out stupid and illogical to not put the music with this "message" you want to push so badly out for casual listeners, not fans, to hear. what incentive to people have to buy her music if they cant listen to it anywhere first? and if you say TIDAL I'm going to ****ing rip my hair out

like yall need to get your heads out of her ass and realize not every decision she makes makes sense

its on itunes tho, like

they have 30 sec previews on there

[Comedor]

You guys still here?

Trying to make a Beyonce single happen when she clearly doesn't give a ****?

Why would we?

[Crescendolls.]

Originally posted by A Little Unruly

The way she treats her 'singles' is really taking a toll on y'all.

Because we've had enough of her ******** seriously. It doesn't even make ANY ****ing sense

[MrPiggyMoka]

Originally posted by Crescendolls.

Because we've had enough of her ******** seriously. It doesn't even make ANY ****ing sense

this. Like what's the point of it all?

[Floyd Mayweather]

Originally posted by Signs

Plus if she's so anti streaming why is her work on tidal? Tidal WANTS to be Spotify. If Tidal somehow was successful at launch and managed to overtake Spotify today, she would still be happy releasing her music on the world's largest streaming service. So she's got no clear and coherent principle/sentiment anyway.

Who said she was anti streaming when she's part owner of Tidal. If anything she's anti Spotify.

[6_INCH_HEELS]

Originally posted by Shelter

It's all about Tidal. She is just giving them the exclusive over streaming. Tidal streams are going down now though.

I heard Freedom on the radio today.

Of course their streams are going down. They're not doing enough to sustain consumers, period. A few exclusives here and there doesn't matter, especially when the music eventually ends up available everywhere. ANTI was a Tidal exclusive for like...a day. Pablo is available everywhere after about a week of it's exclusivity. I don't think they'll ever fully recover from that asinine launch.

Bey isn't anti-charts or streaming. She's pro-paycheck. She's going to get more money from putting the mv on VEVO than on Spotify (Tidal's true competitor)..

So put that **** on VEVO!

[Signs]

Originally posted by Comedor

You guys still here?

Trying to make a Beyonce single happen when she clearly doesn't give a ****?

Why would we?

If she doesn't care:
1) Why were individual songs available songs up for purchase, clearly a change from ST?
2) Why is she even bothering to release singles?
3) Why did she or someone on her team just change the single in the UK, to the better performing one?

[Iman]

Originally posted by A Little Unruly

The way she treats her 'singles' is really taking a toll on y'all.

i dont get why they just cant enjoy the music. if she doesnt care, why should yall?

[BeamMeUp]

Originally posted by Iman

oh well, then they're just lame ad **** for that. and that's why she doesnt **** with them. all these bs rules

It's not rules, it's business.

I applaud Beyoncé for not pandering to radio and resorting to payola but if radio isn't playing her it's partly her fault.

Radio does their part by spinning her songs, but she fails to hold up her end.

[Slayonce]

Originally posted by bijonse

America doesn't even have tidal

God bless YASMAMAHive for those TIDAL streams since they don't care for chart success and all that jazz. Why listen on TIDAL when the album is perched on your iTunes library? Something doesn't add up.