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Originally posted by Kworb
Every warning has always been subjective. It can't be anything but subjective. When people feel like they don't deserve a WP then they bring it up here or send a help request and they get a second opinion. It's worked fine for ages, why wouldn't it for SYG?
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"Offensive comments" is the most subjective thing ever, though. And most things are obviously against the rules or not... Mods are able to stick to that and know what is and what isn't against the rules. If one mod thinks something is against the rules and another mod thinks it isn't, that's a bit of a mess.
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Unrelated to this specific discussion: Am actually somewhat fine with the new SYG. Tis better to make reports in-thread than to bring them up in here and clog up the thread. However, people seem to behaving worse (Personal-behavior-wise) than they did before the change. 
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Originally posted by X/O/X/O
"Offensive comments" is the most subjective thing ever, though. And most things are obviously against the rules or not... Mods are able to stick to that and know what is and what isn't against the rules. If one mod thinks something is against the rules and another mod thinks it isn't, that's a bit of a mess. |
But insensitive/offensive aren't new warning categories. The only thing that's changed is that we will now use them in SYG the same way we did outside of SYG.
We haven't received many complaints about insensitive/offensive in the past, so I doubt it will be as messy as you fear.
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The thing is...If you can't post in SYG without making disgusting/racist remarks all the time as "Drags", you didn't belong in their anyway. Rules are rules.
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Ok, so before I start posting in SYG, let me get one thing straight.
If artists are still fair game, does that mean we can mention certain domestic violence cases against them? What about their dead family? It seems like you get warned for anything that is even remotely hinting to stanbase shade, so I just want to know the loopholes y'all are opening to warn people in that thread.
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Originally posted by feuxtography
Ok, so before I start posting in SYG, let me get one thing straight.
If artists are still fair game, does that mean we can mention certain domestic violence cases against them? What about their dead family? It seems like you get warned for anything that is even remotely hinting to stanbase shade, so I just want to know the loopholes y'all are opening to warn people in that thread.
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I want to know it too
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Originally posted by feuxtography
Ok, so before I start posting in SYG, let me get one thing straight.
If artists are still fair game, does that mean we can mention certain domestic violence cases against them? What about their dead family? It seems like you get warned for anything that is even remotely hinting to stanbase shade, so I just want to know the loopholes y'all are opening to warn people in that thread.
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All depends just how disturbing or offensive your post is. If you are personally incapable of judging whether what you say is offensive, that's fine, the reporters and mods will do it for you.
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Originally posted by ianBK4
I want to know it too
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We won't list any specific things you can or can't mention, as there are gradations to everything.
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Is this gif against the rules in SYG?
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Are we allowed to compare pop stars to drag queens? Genuine question; I'm not taking risks. 
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Originally posted by X/O/X/O
Are we allowed to compare pop stars to drag queens? Genuine question; I'm not taking risks. |
Weren't you just ranting about Cultural Appropriation? 
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Originally posted by Kworb
All depends just how disturbing or offensive your post is. If you are personally incapable of judging whether what you say is offensive, that's fine, the reporters and mods will do it for you.
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But that is completely subjective. Dragging britney to the pits of hell could be offensive to many people. I actually just reported someone in there for using homophobic slang directed at not an artist, but gay people in general.
This is something I wouldn't have regularly done in that thread, but since y'all are incorporating these new stipulations, I thought it was important. Did you warn that? That is offensive.
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Originally posted by HausOfGerard
Weren't you just ranting about Cultural Appropriation? |
To say an artist looks like a drag queen (It's not who you might think I'd say it is) is far from cultural appropriation... That's not someone taking something from a culture and using it for "artistic" or personal needs when they do not apply or are not from that culture in the first place.
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Originally posted by ianBK4
Is this gif against the rules in SYG?
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No of course not.
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Originally posted by X/O/X/O
Are we allowed to compare pop stars to drag queens? Genuine question; I'm not taking risks. |
Depends how you word it.
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Originally posted by feuxtography
But that is completely subjective. Dragging britney to the pits of hell could be offensive to many people. I actually just reported someone in there for using homophobic slang directed at not an artist, but gay people in general.
This is something I wouldn't have regularly done in that thread, but since y'all are incorporating these new stipulations, I thought it was important. Did you warn that? That is offensive.
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Yep it is subjective, like all moderating.
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Originally posted by Kworb
Depends how you word it.
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"[Pop star] is serving / looks like [Drag Queen name] here.
[Image for reference]"
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Originally posted by X/O/X/O
"[Pop star] is serving / looks like [Drag Queen name] here.
[Image for reference]"
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That would be fine
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Kworb, can you post a list of members who were banned yesterday/last night?
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Originally posted by HausOfGerard
Kworb, can you post a list of members who were banned yesterday/last night?
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leon86 0 Days, 10 Hours [10 points]
BlondeAmbitionxX 0 Days, 13 Hours [User accumulated 10 points.]
Rule the World 0 Days, 13 Hours [Requested.]
BecauseOfKelly 0 Days, 23 Hours [User reached ten points.]
KeirGrey 1 Day, 11 Hours [10 points]
electroheart 1 Day, 14 Hours [10 points]
DoubleK 1 Day, 16 Hours [Reached 10 points]
stussytribe 1 Day, 17 Hours [10 points]
OnlyManInTheWorld 2 Days, 2 Hours [Using a bad gif of Demi while riding near 10 points. Nope!]
Mr. Fahrenheit 2 Days, 11 Hours [Obvious trolling is obvious.]
Glamorous 2 Days, 12 Hours [Ten points]
jackieshann 2 Days, 13 Hours [You reached your warn limit]
Hotshot 3 Days, 1 Hour [User reached ten points.]
Optimus 3 Days, 20 Hours [Requested]
Sinvius 3 Days, 22 Hours [User requested]
AuraOfPinkslam 4 Days, 10 Hours [10 points]
BEYinfamous 4 Days, 10 Hours [10 points]
GrandMomCookies 4 Days, 11 Hours [10 points]
Josh 4 Days, 22 Hours [10 points]
Beautiful Liar 5 Days, 1 Hour [You reached your warn limit]
mannybillionz 5 Days, 9 Hours [10 points]
BreatheGaga 5 Days, 15 Hours [10 points]
Glamazon 5 Days, 19 Hours [Bye.]
Kiddo. 5 Days, 20 Hours [User requested]
lancelovesgaga 6 Days, 1 Hour [10 points]
jamesmax 8 Days, 9 Hours [10 points]
Lifeline 8 Days, 9 Hours [10 points]
Swag 9 Days, 16 Hours [Take a break, eat a cookie | 10 points]
Signs 10 Days, 14 Hours [You reached your warn limit]
RaeseanLohan 11 Days, 2 Hours [User reached 10 warning points.]
Team.B 11 Days, 17 Hours [10 Points]
BadKidBrodie 12 Days, 1 Hour [Take a breather pal.]
D.M.F 13 Days, 3 Hours [Obvious trolling is obvious.]
Aaron 14 Days, 1 Hour [User reached 10 warning points.]
kyleaustin 14 Days, 3 Hours [10 points]
Will_ 14 Days, 12 Hours [10 points]
Evans 15 Days, 0 Hours [10 points]
P!NK2LOVE 15 Days, 3 Hours [Ten warning points.]
TVilla 15 Days, 11 Hours [Reached 10 points]
Shamser 15 Days, 15 Hours [10 points]
Teen Idle 15 Days, 15 Hours [10 points]
znake 15 Days, 15 Hours [10 points]
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Lippy 20 Days, 18 Hours [10 points]
Neonika 21 Days, 10 Hours [super trolling]
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KevinKDC 22 Days, 3 Hours [You reached your warn limit]
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Space Renegade 24 Days, 4 Hours [Ten warning points.]
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bubblegum 24 Days, 19 Hours [You have reached 10 warning points.]
JonathanLGardner 24 Days, 20 Hours [You reached your warn limit]
Bentley 25 Days, 3 Hours [Don't harass Bill Werde]
Christina-Lover 25 Days, 3 Hours [You reached your warn limit]
MonsterNavy 25 Days, 12 Hours [Ten points]
The Best One Yet 25 Days, 12 Hours [10 points]
wanderlust 25 Days, 12 Hours [Ten points]
Roc 25 Days, 22 Hours [User requested ban. Tweet a mod if you want an early lift.]
FattMatt 25 Days, 23 Hours [You reached your warn limit]
Fernando. 26 Days, 3 Hours [You reached your warn limit]
genetic fail 26 Days, 3 Hours [The pits of humanity.]
Whatevaaaaa 26 Days, 12 Hours [User reached ten points.]
Ricanaire 26 Days, 15 Hours [10 points]
katara 27 Days, 11 Hours [10 points]
Last Boy on Earth 27 Days, 12 Hours [10 points]
lickmycody 27 Days, 22 Hours [User has reached 10 warning points.]
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lilMonsterKayla 28 Days, 3 Hours [10 points]
christ 28 Days, 5 Hours [You reached your warn limit]
Quiqui4eva 28 Days, 5 Hours [You reached your warn limit]
Xtina Culture 28 Days, 12 Hours [Ten points]
aleik2 28 Days, 14 Hours [10 points]
EloiseheartsRiRi 28 Days, 15 Hours [User reached ten points.]
MetalHausOfJosh 28 Days, 16 Hours [Bye, I guess.]
Spyro 28 Days, 16 Hours [Hope the gif dragging Legend X was worth it.]
Reader 29 Days, 16 Hours [User reached 10 warning points.]
Demiboyx 29 Days, 18 Hours [10 points]
GaSkrillex 29 Days, 18 Hours [Ten warning points.]
blasianlove 29 Days, 20 Hours [You reached your warn limit]
XTIANLOVESBRITNEY 29 Days, 20 Hours [You reached your warn limit]
Brinny Baby 29 Days, 22 Hours [You reached your warn limit]
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LEGENDB 30 Days, 17 Hours [Caught the edit]
LongIslandKid 30 Days, 17 Hours [You reached your warn limit]
AnginaWilliams 35 Days, 14 Hours [Incessant trolling/fighting]
And Now I Wonder 73 Days, 14 Hours [Trolling thread spamming after repeated bans]
PromKing 87 Days, 16 Hours [Dupe Account, extended ban]
8=K=A=Y=B=E=E=D 89 Days, 5 Hours [Requested]
Ale-Alejandro 119 Days, 3 Hours [Troll]
QueenB 131 Days, 5 Hours [N/A]
Lil Misty 166 Days, 0 Hours [Posting a user's picture without permission]
Drowned_World 362 Days, 21 Hours [User requested]
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XTIANLOVESBRITNEY 29 Days, 20 Hours [You reached your warn limit]
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No more Britney stupid related threads
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Brielle is banned 
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