I think it has something to do with a natural decline and single choices. Overexposure, perhaps.
I think it has to do with the nature of the songs she's putting out. It's always about the music, not the artist. Not only are they not obvious clubbangers like JD or PF, but they're a little abstract. Being "caught in a bad romance" is a very clear, relatable topic. Being "on the edge of glory and hanging on a moment of truth"...what does that even mean? Without looking into it, you wouldn't know.
I know that a decline is inevitable. Every artist, even Michael Jackson and Madonna, have them. But I just don't see a decline in Gaga's sales and popularity yet. More than one million followers in Twitter by month don't show that, and, like someone said, BTW will most likely outsell TFM by March or April 2012 or even a little before. I know there will be an era where sales will be low, and she becomes less popular, but I really don't think it's this one.
i think that description fits exactly for me. it might sound weird but if im listening to the album, its like an intense intoxication that after a while i need a break from so i listen to something else or BTW song which doesnt feel as intense.
That's why I love Ke$ha, truly.
I've talked about this a lot. I like when Ke$ha and Lady Gaga are releasing new music at the same time because GaGa's music is dense, dark, heavy, and intense. However, Ke$ha's music is really quite the opposite. They blend very well together in that they contrast.
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Mhm, that make sense. Most songs that blow up are incredibly, I don't want to say "generic", but in terms of reaching out to everyone, generic. Like, Scheisse would only be liked by people who like Eurotrash pop. Government Hooker would only be liked by people who like darker, grungier pop. I really don't think Gaga was worrying about being radio-friendly, though. Or maybe she was and she thought she could change things like she did with The Fame.
Do you guys think Lil' Wayne's new album could possibly sell more in its first week than BTW did? He had an album sell 1,000,000 in a week, didn't he?
Agreed on a lot of that.
The bolded part, however, I want to talk about, lol. Gaga mentioned in an interview that she studied the dance community when making Born This Way. Meaning, she talked to the DJ's about the sound that was popular and growing popular, etc,..
The dance community itself is very fickle. Have any of you tracked the dance/club chart on billboard? The #1's change so often, and one week a song is in the top 10 and the next it's way in the 20s. When GaGa wrote Born This Way, she created an album that was for her primary fanbase, the dance lovers (the casual fans, and the other fans GAINED through the extreme promotion of TF/TFM were disappointed because they weren't her target this go-round).
And, I think Lil' Wayne definitely has a chance to sell more than BTW. He's had really good radio support, and digital support. Furthermore, he did have 1, 1 million debut to begin with already; so, I can see him doing it again. He's very popular.
I think the kind of success Lady GaGa got with the Fame is a once in a career kind. BTW sold very well as an album is still selling and will still sell especially when the general public discovers there are songs like MTN Scheisse HML and Bloody Mary imo!
So let's wait till the end of the era to make conclusions.
But it's true that single wise there have been a few problems: the Judas flop and TEOG video.
But the way the Yoü and I era has started shows that there still a huge potential single wise with BTW... and properly managed it will make BTW easily chart in the top 10 in many countries
Gaga is more exposed than them because she's made more of an impact on pop culture. This isn't a bad thing though, and Europe has a chance to get its act together next year with HML, Sheiße, Bloody Mary& the BTWball
I think it has to do with the nature of the songs she's putting out. It's always about the music, not the artist. Not only are they not obvious clubbangers like JD or PF, but they're a little abstract. Being "caught in a bad romance" is a very clear, relatable topic. Being "on the edge of glory and hanging on a moment of truth"...what does that even mean? Without looking into it, you wouldn't know.
Oh wow, you finally said something that makes sense and you didn't shade (from what I see) in the process.
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The dance community itself is very fickle. Have any of you tracked the dance/club chart on billboard? The #1's change so often, and one week a song is in the top 10 and the next it's way in the 20s. When GaGa wrote Born This Way, she created an album that was for her primary fanbase, the dance lovers (the casual fans, and the other fans GAINED through the extreme promotion of TF/TFM were disappointed because they weren't her target this go-round). .
I do believe that BTW is for her fans and it's a bit of an experiment. I think she'll learn from what she did during this era and she'll change her sound once again with the next album. But that's years away, so let's not get too ahead of ourselves.
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That's what I'm asking especially in the UK where she was a formidable chart topper... And also in other countries.
I think it all boils down to this album not being the kind of album that the general public would eat up. The songs require a certain taste and not everyone is willing to try something new.
If the tour is successful, I can see the album selling 8-10 million by the end of this era and without a re-release. She has already sold so much and she's not Adele, so it's understandable that she's not pulling in MASSIVE numbers.
I think it has to do with the nature of the songs she's putting out. It's always about the music, not the artist. Not only are they not obvious clubbangers like JD or PF, but they're a little abstract. Being "caught in a bad romance" is a very clear, relatable topic. Being "on the edge of glory and hanging on a moment of truth"...what does that even mean? Without looking into it, you wouldn't know.
This just sounds like a load of ********.
Ever since Gaga developed such a polarizing image, it's never been just about the music. That much is obvious when a country DJ almost gets fired for playing Y&I because it's a Lady Gaga song. Her image is there, her image is extremely powerful and extremely divisive and it's something she has to deal with.
As for Bad Romance vs. The Edge of Glory, I think a lot more people seem to understand/relate to TEOG than BR. BR is just a sonic assault that was catchy as hell when everyone first heard it (and still is). I feel like virtually no one appreciates the lyrics/concept of Bad Romance like they do with TEOG, which comes off a lot simpler.
Ever since Gaga developed such a polarizing image, it's never been just about the music. That much is obvious when a country DJ almost gets fired for playing Y&I because it's a Lady Gaga song. Her image is there, her image is extremely powerful and extremely divisive and it's something she has to deal with.
As for Bad Romance vs. The Edge of Glory, I think a lot more people seem to understand/relate to TEOG than BR. BR is just a sonic assault that was catchy as hell when everyone first heard it (and still is). I feel like virtually no one appreciates the lyrics/concept of Bad Romance as much as TEOG.
I don't think I've ever told you that you're my fave Gaga/Bieber stan!
That's what I'm asking especially in the UK where she was a formidable chart topper... And also in other countries.
Yeah, but she has still sold 527.110 copies of BTW there, and selling around 8k per week, which isn't too bad considering sales in the UK are dreadful right now, with albums going to #1 on 30k... The promo effect was obvious when she went back to #1 in the UK after a single promotional appearance on a TV show with 4M viewers... When she comes back to do the XF (not if, when, because if she doesn't I will go crazy!), she will see a return to healthy sales. The problem in the UK right now is that TEOG is finished (not in a bad way, it has simply run its course) and Y&I hasn't started yet (it was only added by BBCR1 and BBCR2 on Wednesday).
tbh i dont really consider the album an 'experiment'. an 'experiment' would mean that she will go back to singing TF type songs and we all pretty much can agree that wont be happening.
tbh i dont really consider the album an 'experiment'. an 'experiment' would mean that she will go back to singing TF type songs and we all pretty much can agree that wont be happening.
tbh i dont really consider the album an 'experiment'. an 'experiment' would mean that she will go back to singing TF type songs and we all pretty much can agree that wont be happening.
She said it's an experiment and she's trying to "push the boundaries of what's acceptable." Going back to TF-type songs is the opposite of an experiment because we all know how that would turn out.
no, sorry thats not what i meant lol. i meant, that if BTW was just an experiment, then afterwards she will go back to TF type songs which are not experiments. that came out wrong sorry i didnt mean TF was an 'experimental' album lol.