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Originally posted by BreatheGaga
I had this rlly weird dream with tay in it last night 
Okay, so I lived on a farm on Barbados, and I was Rihanna. My grandmother had this thing to carry kids with, and just because I wanted to be nice I bought it for $3,000, and she got so happy. One day, Taylor and her family was building a house next to ours. And my mother (Kris Jenner) got so ****ing mad, she started screaming and ****  |
Kris Jenner as a neighbor sounds more like a nightmare to me.
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4. TAYLOR SWIFT – We Are Never Ever Getting…: 142.628 (+ 0.139)
TAYLOR SWIFT - Begin Again: 29.764 (+ 0.802)
Hmm, the overall total for WANEGBT doesn't add up.. or is the country AI still reduced?
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Originally posted by BreatheGaga
I had this rlly weird dream with tay in it last night
Okay, so I lived on a farm on Barbados, and I was Rihanna. My grandmother had this thing to carry kids with, and just because I wanted to be nice I bought it for $3,000, and she got so happy. One day, Taylor and her family was building a house next to ours. And my mother (Kris Jenner) got so ****ing mad, she started screaming and **** |
Wait. I'm crying. 
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Member Since: 8/27/2012
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Originally posted by dragonhunter
11/03/12
POP
2 = TAYLOR SWIFT We Are Never Ever Ge... 13523 SPINS (+24) 90.845 AI (+0.107)
HAC
7 = TAYLOR SWIFT We Are Never Ever Ge... 3613 SPINS (+28) 25.991 AI (+0.168)
AC
10 = TAYLOR SWIFT We Are Never Ever Ge... 976 SPINS (+10) 6.859 AI (-0.007)
RHYTHMIC
48 -2 TAYLOR SWIFT We Are Never Ever Ge... 424 SPINS (+7) 2.338 AI (+0.099)
COUNTRY
17 = TAYLOR SWIFT Begin Again 3049 SPINS (+50) 24.198 AI (+0.267)
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Originally posted by Icannot
4. TAYLOR SWIFT – We Are Never Ever Getting…: 142.628 (+ 0.139)
TAYLOR SWIFT - Begin Again: 29.764 (+ 0.802)
Hmm, the overall total for WANEGBT doesn't add up.. or is the country AI still reduced?
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Good updates 
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Member Since: 12/13/2011
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Cute:
Adjective:
- Attractive in a pretty or endearing way.
- Sexually attractive.
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73, Aretha Franklin
56, Madonna
56, Taylor Swift
56, Dionne Warwick
"The Highway" will push us to #2. Cackles.
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A lot of people know you were a talented singer as a kid, but you actually experienced setbacks for many years before you made it, right?
I started out with community theater, like local theater. I loved being on stage. I loved telling a story through words and music. I actually ended up going to auditions in New York for Broadway stuff. I didn't make it there. What I ended up coming back to is, I always was just so obsessed with the storytelling in country music. Shania Twain, Faith Hill, The Dixie Chicks — I was so taken in by their songs. So I started singing their songs at karaoke contests and singing every single weekend at something, trying out singing the national anthem here or there. When I was 12, I started playing guitar and writing my own songs, and that's when it became something I could never stop thinking about. It went into overdrive. I was always singing at some coffeehouse or some singer-songwriter night or this festival or that festival. It just became everything to me when I was about 12, and that's when I started really pressuring my parents to move to Nashville.
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That's what makes her different. She paid her due. 
Kind of disturbing now thinking 12/13 yo Taylor being screamed at by biker dudes to take her shirt off, like how she said at an interview.
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HCS
1 (=) We Are Never eveR Getting Back Together (#1 4 WKS Greatest Gainer/Streaming)
13 (Hot Shot Debut) I Almost Do
17 (New) All Too Well
24 (New) Stay Stay Stay
26 (New) Treachorous
28 (New) Starlight
32 (New) Holy Ground
33 (New) The Lucky One
37 (New) Sad Beautiful Tragic
40 (-23) Begin Again
46 (=) Ronan
http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/photo.../BBCmw1101.pdf
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Originally posted by dragonhunter
HCS
1 (=) We Are Never eveR Getting Back Together (#1 4 WKS Greatest Gainer/Streaming)
13 (Hot Shot Debut) I Almost Do
17 (New) All Too Well
24 (New) Stay Stay Stay
26 (New) Treachorous
28 (New) Starlight
32 (New) Holy Ground
33 (New) The Lucky One
37 (New) Sad Beautiful Tragic
40 (-23) Begin Again
46 (=) Ronan
http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/photo.../BBCmw1101.pdf
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Why is EHC not considered as country when HG and TLO were?
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Has she jumped the shark?
By playing to everybody has she undermined her core country audience?
Don't trust the media. The media is there to be manipulated, it likes a story. Ergo, the election. If there's no horse race, there's no ratings. If everybody else is doing a story on Taylor Swift, then you should too, even if you're the "New York Times."
So the media crowns you superstar of the month, but does it last?
It's not like we haven't seen this movie before. With Peter Frampton. Credible rock artist triumphs amongst mainstream and promptly plays to his newfound fans and is abandoned by his core and is ultimately kicked to the curb by everybody. Of course it was not that simple, but "I'm In You" sold prodigiously upon release. And then went straight into the dumper. Is this what's gonna happen with Taylor Swift?
First there's the single, "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together," one of Max Martin and Shellback's best. They want to get paid, they're saving their A material for superstars. The only problem is country radio wouldn't play it, not for long. It wasn't made for them but Top Forty radio. But Top Forty radio is fickle, loyalty does not exist, if callout research is less than stellar, they drop your track, no matter who you are. "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" may have set sales records, but it seems to have the shelf life of a cup of yogurt. Well, not that short, but in a world where some tracks fester in the public consciousness for the better part of a year, like Cee Lo's "Forget You," "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" seems more like a flare than a lasting light.
Then there's the Papa John's tie-in. It sold few copies of the album, but those on Taylor's team would talk about the publicity factor. As if the target audience, as if those who don't even care, were unaware. But it became an internet meme. People kept forwarding it to others, essentially saying "Can you believe this? Does the woman have no shame?" Of course it wasn't Taylor herself, but when you're the star, you bear the brunt of all criticism. Your handlers can find another act, you're saddled with being you.
And then there was last night's CMAs. Where not only did Taylor get shut out, going 0 for 3, they made jokes about her love life from the stage.
You can't manage affairs of the heart. If she fell in love with Conor Kennedy, so be it. But suddenly Taylor looked bad, robbing the cradle for a high school student after abusing John Mayer for taking advantage of her when she was young.
And suddenly Taylor Swift is no longer so young. And there's a distinct backlash going on. Now people are pointing at her, saying she's the problem as opposed to those she's writing songs about, attacking.
In other words, Taylor Swift was not satisfied with being the queen of country. She needed to be the queen of EVERYTHING! As if anyone's gonna remember she sold a million copies of "Red" last week. It's ultimately a meaningless statistic, only the music matters.
And too much of the music is not country. And now, more than ever since before the Beatles, pop music is seen as disposable. It's country music that lasts. It's country acts that last. Taylor Swift could have been the new coal miner's daughter, er, financial advisor's daughter, you get my point, she could have been Loretta Lynn. Dolly Parton even. Who never forgot her country fans but did sacrifice country airplay when she went mainstream, became a movie star. Then again, to equate Taylor Swift's talents with those of Dolly Parton is to believe Snooki can play outfield for the Mets. Then again, with the season they had!
The harder the sell, the bigger the turn-off. Remember when Jewel was the biggest star of the land, with new singles seemingly every week and incessant appearances on TV? Today Jewel can't get arrested, she's a trivia question, people have a bad taste in their mouth. Furthermore, once upon a time, Jewel was a folkie, before the label remixed her tracks to be hits. The label made its money, it's Jewel who's left holding the bag.
Just because someone says they'll promote you that does not mean you should tie in with them. Pearl Jam won't tie in with anybody, but they do great live business to this day, despite having almost no radio hits since "Ten." Pearl Jam knows if you don't stand for something, you stand for nothing. And saying you owe it all to your fans is not lip service, you have to make decisions with them in mind, not only put them first, but make sure they can get the good concert tickets, because when the mania's done, they're the only ones who'll remain.
I'm not saying Taylor Swift is going to fade into oblivion by Christmas. Hell, she might survive this overhype and continue to triumph. Then again, today albums of pop and country stars are single dependent. If Top Forty abandons her and country gives her the cold shoulder, "Red" could have a very short shelf life. Better slow and steady than to be a rocket ship that burns out. Better to be Mumford & Sons and sell for a year than be number one and then fall off the chart, or languish at the bottom.
It's tough being number one. Everybody's gunning for you. Instead of going on this premature victory lap, Taylor Swift should have employed the soft sell. Will the hard sell come back and bite her?
Expect ticket sales to be good.
Then again, the Dixie Chicks sold out arenas and today can barely get arrested. They pissed off their country audience.
Those Max Martin/Dr. Luke singles are trifles, usually with short shelf lives. Taylor Swift built her career by revealing her inner truth, by relating to the outcasts, the thinkers, everybody but the cheerleaders and football captains. But now she's playing the role of winner herself. She's subtly gone from the sidelines to homecoming queen. And that comes with a price. It's kind of like that old teen movie "Can't Buy Me Love," abandon your friends for a better crowd and when they dump you, your old buddies can't be found, you're nowhere.
Taylor Swift can work until she dies. She's had that many hits.
But somehow, with the overhype and move to the middle, she's torn away some of her underpinnings, she's become unmoored, we're no longer exactly sure who she is.
And if we don't know who you are, it's hard to stay in love with you.
The little girls may scream, ticket sales may be rampant. But if you don't see it my way, if you don't think her career now has more questions than answers, you're not thinking at all.
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Bob continues to whine.  He has some right statements about her career.  But with last sentence he shows his big ego. 
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He still sounds ****ing bitter.
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Never change Bob. 
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Bob needs to get laid so bad
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My sister told me that she saw 5 cars pass by blasting WANEGBT and different songs from Red.
I was the first person that bought the physical copy here. 
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Omg Bob..... 
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Originally posted by dragonhunter
Bob continues to whine. He has some right statements about her career. But with last sentence he shows his big ego.
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Bob always being helpful.
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I get where he's coming from. One question, has HE heard the album?
Agree tho that there's a backlash against her about to come. Still doubt if it will hurt her. Hell, I think this upcoming backlash may will gonna help her to get out of the mainstream BS asap.
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Originally posted by thediscomonkey
I get where he's coming from. One question, has HE heard the album?
Agree tho that there's a backlash against her about to come. Still doubt if it will hurt her. Hell, I think this upcoming backlash may will gonna help her to get out of the mainstream BS asap. |
Here for this.
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Just noticed she's back #1 on iTunes ! 
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The part of ''Never, Ever'' in I Almost Do shares the same melody of ''We are Never Ever ever''. 
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