[Dessy Fenix]

Originally posted by Wonderland

Kander

I would've said this if he won his Senate seat. I'll expect him in 2028 or something tho

[Lord Blackout]

I don't see what's wrong with raising taxes on the middle class but getting free education and healthcare in return Lol. Isn't that what France does compared to us?

[Dessy Fenix]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

I don't see what's wrong with raising taxes on the middle class but getting free education and healthcare in return Lol. Isn't that what France does compared to us?

"Why should I have to pay for someone else's education/health/food/whatever?"

It's that attitude.

[Mike91]

If Biden ran, Bernie probably would have won the nomination as Clinton and Biden would have split the Obama coalition. One of them would have had to eventually drop out.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by Dessy Fenix

"Why should I have to pay for someone else's education/health/food/whatever?"

It's that attitude.

No no I'm not denying the presence of those beliefs, I'm just pointing out the stupidity of Americans who don't realize how tax raises would end up saving them money in the long run.

[LuLuDrops]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

I don't see what's wrong with raising taxes on the middle class but getting free education and healthcare in return Lol. Isn't that what France does compared to us?

I think so.

By the way, that reminds me, both French and Austrian elections have a far-right candidate gaining traction



I wonder if Bannon makes a French and German Breitbart soon.

[Hazard]

Finally been unbanned from the thread, and like i said, Trump won. ATRL should not have been so sure Hillary would win, she proposed no change and we're at a place where Ameicans really want change. But of course liberals can't accept opposing views, and shut people off, silence them, ban them from the thread, and assume everything will go to their plan. Nope. Media did just that for years, and people got sick of it, and now we have Brexit and Trump

[Lord Blackout]

Ex-felons should be allowed to vote. If democrats make this their top priority, they'd easily win the 2020 election.

[Mike91]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

I don't see what's wrong with raising taxes on the middle class but getting free education and healthcare in return Lol. Isn't that what France does compared to us?

Republicans are masters of putting any progressive idea in a bad light. When Clinton pushed for universal healthcare in 93, a majority of the country supported until the republican attack machine got a hold of it.

And as long as you have a lot of gullible people on the right who refuse to see the benefits of having education and healthcare accessible to everyone, we won't have it. To our benefit, countries already have these policies in place as a model so we can correct the bad parts and keep the good parts.

[TaggedGalaxy]

Originally posted by Wonderland

Kander

There's just something about him

[Dessy Fenix]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

No no I'm not denying the presence of those beliefs, I'm just pointing out the stupidity of Americans who don't realize how tax raises would end up saving them money in the long run.

Oh right. It's just the way they been told especially by Republicans.

I also want to blame the whole No Tax thing during the American revolution given our patriotism but I don't think folks are that dense

[LuLuDrops]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

Ex-felons should be allowed to vote. If democrats make this their top priority, they'd easily win the 2020 election.

VA Governor doing his best for us



Now only 40+ states left to go

[LuLuDrops]

Yas, Kander would be interesting. Hope he wins some state race soon.

Then again if Jason was the one then the far-left might criticize the "Dixiecrat"

[LuLuDrops]

Pick a Bernie-type: Republicans will start the socialism slander
Pick a center-left type: They're not liberal enough

Damned if you, damned if you don't

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by LuLuDrops

Pick a Bernie-type: Republicans will start the socialism slander
Pick a center-left type: They're not liberal enough

Damned if you, damned if you don't

Don't forget that you have to walk on eggshells for the new coalitions of the democratic party.

It has to be someone squeaky clean who can speak to minorities AND to the white working class without offending anyone. A struggle

[LuLuDrops]

I used to think Republicans had to struggle to narrow someone down after Obama ha two slays, but now the shoe's on the other foot and we're the ones being held to an insane standard

[LaNathan]

1.75 million lead for Clinton. This is so crazy...

[Lord Blackout]

The GOP play so dirty while the democrats are willing to "work with him"

[Bey Admired]

At least that more Americans voted for Hillary. I suppose there's hope for the future.

If they got rid of the electoral college, Republicans would never win again. That's why it won't ever change.

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by LaNathan

1.75 million lead for Clinton. This is so crazy...

I think it kinda goes both ways. Only 19/50 states wanted Hilary to be president. That's like less than half of Senate approving laws.

Plus its been two weeks and they still haven't finished counting votes. What if it was a close election popular vote wise? it would take too long for the president-elect to get ready and that's w/o recounts.