[NE.]

Originally posted by ABEL-o-matic

Why can't it be accepted that Trump benefited most from Hispanic (+8%), Black (+7%) and Asian (+11%) votes. He literally had 1% improvement of white votes from Romney in 2012.

Minorites have gotten tired of being lied to by Democrats. All the promises towards helping the black community and nothing to show. And more illegal immigrants have been deported during the Obama administration than even Bush, but of course this is never mentioned.

Many of them felt they had nothing to lose at this point. And truthfully, misguided as his words may be, Trump spoke the black community. Hillary pretty much milly rocked and nae-naed around the issues.

[NE.]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

Can a mod lock this thread?

Or at least thread-ban some people

Why? So you can complain and mope in peace?

This sort of attempt to muzzle any open dialogue that isn't pro-Hillary is the center of why the election played out the way it did.

[Toxicity.]

Some of you have some sort of sick vendetta towards a woman you've never met She's enjoying retirement now while you got what you wanted reality tv star now President Trump, give it up.

[TheSoneNavy]

Originally posted by hellocory

Don't wake up

[Dessy Fenix]

No shade but why do people assume that Sanders could've won if less black voters voted for him in the primary? One of the key mentions in the article above stated how Hillary black's turnout were lower than Obama in places like Michigan. I can only imagine how much worse Bernie would've fared. Of course then the argument could transfer to how he could've kept some of the white voters that basically crossed over to GOP, but would that even had been enough? Bernie would've eventually have to get a bit dirty much like he did toward the end of the Democratic Primary. Now I'm not saying he absolutely would've lost, maybe Clinton's campaign of scandals (even if most of it were emails) and the exposé of her private speeches as well as the DNC mess did push folks over. But personally I think the problem with Bernie is that he wasn't all-appealing (while Hillary just tried to bet on minorities, millennials and women and ultimately lost the EC). Hillary wasn't my first choice by any means but still, I have strong doubt about a GE Bernie winning. But in honestly no one would ever truly know.

[Latinazza]

Originally posted by hellocory

Don't wake up

[NE.]

Originally posted by Toxicity.

Some of you have some sort of sick vendetta towards a woman you've never met She's enjoying retirement now while you got what you wanted reality tv star now President Trump, give it up.

I'm sure she's hardly "enjoying" her unexpected retirement after being 100% sure she was going to be the next leader of the free world

I didn't have to meet her to know she was a power hungry elitist that cheated her way to the top and still got denied the Oval.

[Dessy Fenix]

Originally posted by NE.

Minorites have gotten tired of being lied to by Democrats. All the promises towards helping the black community and nothing to show. And more illegal immigrants have been deported during the Obama administration than even Bush, but of course this is never mentioned.

Many of them felt they had nothing to lose at this point. And truthfully, misguided as his words may be, Trump spoke the black community. Hillary pretty much milly rocked and nae-naed around the issues.

Now let's not act like Trump numbers with blacks is good when Bush had like 11%

[NE.]

Originally posted by Dessy Fenix

No shade but why do people assume that Sanders could've won if less black voters voted for him in the primary? One of the key mentions in the article above stated how Hillary black's turnout were lower than Obama in places like Michigan. I can only imagine how much worse Bernie would've fared. Of course then the argument could transfer to how he could've kept some of the white voters that basically crossed over to GOP, but would that even had been enough? Bernie would've eventually have to get a bit dirty much like he did toward the end of the Democratic Primary. Now I'm not saying he absolutely would've lost, maybe Clinton's campaign of scandals (even if most of it were emails) and the exposé of her private speeches as well as the DNC mess did push folks over. But personally I think the problem with Bernie is that he wasn't all-appealing (while Hillary just tried to bet on minorities, millennials and women and ultimately lost the EC). Hillary wasn't my first choice by any means but still, I have strong doubt about a GE Bernie winning. But in honestly no one would ever truly know.

Sanders = Likable and populist.

Clinton = Unlikable and corporate establishment.

He could have pulled from third-party, undecided, and non-voters.

[Dessy Fenix]

Originally posted by NE.

Sanders = Likable and populist.

Clinton = Unlikable and corporate establishment.

He could have pulled from third-party, undecided, and non-voters.

And then he would've pushed people away for being too liberal, or for the "socialist" fear-mongering from the right. Like there's so many other things in play with Sanders it's hard to say simply he would've won. Even a Bernie-like candidate running on similar ideals in Wisconsin ultimately lost.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by NE.

Why? So you can complain and mope in peace?

This sort of attempt to muzzle any open dialogue that isn't pro-Hillary is the center of why the election played out the way it did.

No no sweetie. The election played out this way because we had too much open dialogue with entitled liberals like your kind thinking there were no repercussions to their my way or the highway attitude and voting against their interests. Trump is a good thing to YOUR kind. He'll shake you up real good and get you back in line with the democrats. Don't think I don't remember your serious Trump praise long before he was even the nominee
These 4 years will be blamed on your kind out of others, not mine for wanting a bunch of lame foreign trolls who do no value the importance of this election thread-banned

[Marvin]

Originally posted by Dessy Fenix

No shade but why do people assume that Sanders could've won if less black voters voted for him in the primary? One of the key mentions in the article above stated how Hillary black's turnout were lower than Obama in places like Michigan. I can only imagine how much worse Bernie would've fared. Of course then the argument could transfer to how he could've kept some of the white voters that basically crossed over to GOP, but would that even had been enough? Bernie would've eventually have to get a bit dirty much like he did toward the end of the Democratic Primary. Now I'm not saying he absolutely would've lost, maybe Clinton's campaign of scandals (even if most of it were emails) and the exposé of her private speeches as well as the DNC mess did push folks over. But personally I think the problem with Bernie is that he wasn't all-appealing (while Hillary just tried to bet on minorities, millennials and women and ultimately lost the EC). Hillary wasn't my first choice by any means but still, I have strong doubt about a GE Bernie winning. But in honestly no one would ever truly know.

Yes

Hillary lost Michigan and Wisconsin by less than 1%. Bernie would've won them + Pennsylvania which would've been enough.

[Yzma]

[rivers]

Originally posted by Dessy Fenix

Now let's not act like Trump numbers with blacks is good when Bush had like 11%

I was about to say this. Still an overwhelming amount of minorities prefer the Democratic Party and there's a reason why lmao

[Dessy Fenix]

Originally posted by Marvin

Yes

Hillary lost Michigan and Wisconsin by less than 1%. Bernie would've won them + Pennsylvania which would've been enough.

He would've offset enough minority voters with white voters and won? I still remain highly skeptical even in these certain states.

[Ramos]

Is Trump really asking this? Has he not noticed that he was elected as POTUS and that's a full time job & they need his presence 24/7 in Washington for the most part?

Elizabeth Holmes ‏@EHolmesWSJ 1 hour ago

Trump "is talking with his advisers about how many nights a week he will spend in the White House."

President-elect Donald J. Trump won the White House with an outsider’s populist promise to “drain the swamp” of Washington.

Now, as he prepares to assume the presidency, an open question remains about the capital he repeatedly spurned: Just how much is he willing to become a part of it?

Mr. Trump, a homebody who often flew several hours late at night during the campaign so he could wake up in his own bed in Trump Tower, is talking with his advisers about how many nights a week he will spend in the White House. He has told them he would like to do what he is used to, which is spending time in New York when he can.

The questions reflect what Mr. Trump’s advisers described as the president-elect’s coming to grips with the fact that his life is about to change radically. They say that Mr. Trump, who was shocked when he won the election, might spend most of the week in Washington, much like members of Congress, and return to Trump Tower or his golf course in Bedminster, N.J., or his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach on weekends.

Full story: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/12...?_r=0&referer=

[Mitch.]

Originally posted by Mr. Grey

That will never happen, Trump will protect the gays from his dog.

Mess. Trump couldn't protect his dick from barely legal teens. How in the **** is he going to protect the gays from Pence.

The complete and utter delusion.

[Lord Blackout]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/antoineg.../#6e3a9d607d23
http://rockrivertimes.com/2016/11/10...treasury-spot/
http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/11/news...t-regulations/

Drain the swamp? No more establishment?

[Marvin]

Originally posted by Dessy Fenix

He would've offset enough minority voters with white voters and won? I still remain highly skeptical even in these certain states.

Well it's not like Hillary was bringing out the voters anyway. Her share of minority voters decreased compared to Obama's.

Bernie was the change and hope people wanted/needed and that would've been seen had he been given a fair chance and eventually a national platform to run on against Trump.

[Delilah.]

Originally posted by Ramos

Is Trump really asking this? Has he not noticed that he was elected as POTUS and that's a full time job & they need his presence 24/7 in Washington for the most part?

He is definitely resigning after a year or two