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Stats: $83,040,746 - ArtRave Boxscores & Receipts - Official Thread
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
You guys need to stop arguing over the Australian dates.
None of them have sold out. Infact tonights show in Sydney has a massive red curtain covering more than half of the seating areas. Australia wasn't a success but that's not to say other areas of the world won't be.
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I really didn't see the need for those secondary Melbourne and Sidney shows when even the first shows were struggling to sell out, but whatever.
The demand for secondary shows clearly wasn't there. I don't even know what Live Nation was thinking when they decided to add them.
One shows in those 4 cities would have been enough.
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Originally posted by Bang Up
No, I did not. Learn to read.  Though the artRAVE will outgross Teenage Dream's tour, which was Katy's peak.  |
How was it her peak if her current PWT will gross at least twice as much? The struggle to make artRave look successful 
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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All this rumbling for a 6k date that almost grossed 1 million dollars. Like seriously ATRL? 
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Originally posted by Liberdade mi amor
All this rumbling for a 6k date that almost grossed 1 million dollars. Like seriously ATRL? |
It's very expensive to bring a tour to Australia. 1 million is not great for there, but yeah for 6k it's good.
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Originally posted by Shelter
It's very expensive to bring a tour to Australia. 1 million is not great for there, but yeah for 6k it's good.
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If the attendance is indeed 6k, then it is a fact that the tour struggled in Australia, the exaggeration and overreaction in here is real tho. And we knew it beforehand that the tour like the whole era would do as such. So 1 million for 6 k is more than great. I don't think the Australian leg won't be profitable, otherwise they wouldnt have planned it at all. So let us all move on.
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
You guys need to stop arguing over the Australian dates.
None of them have sold out. Infact tonights show in Sydney has a massive red curtain covering more than half of the seating areas. Australia wasn't a success but that's not to say other areas of the world won't be.
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welp
maybe wait until a show is over
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Always wait till the show begins. Seated people come after work/school, skipped the support acts and go to their seats just before the main show begins.
How the dreaded curtains and moving the stage forward work as described by Bell Centre Montreal:
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Full Capacity - 15,000 seats
While the Centre Bell can seat over 21,000 fans for an NHL hockey game or a sports event full capacity for a major concert is approximately 15,000 seats.
Amphitheatre - 10,000-14,000 seats
The Amphitheatre sets the stage for a more intimate show but still with major star power. This configuration uses the regular seating sections but a smaller part of the floor surface.
Theatre - 5,000-9,000 seats
The Theatre setup creates an intimate concert hall that allows the performer close contact with the audience.
Hemicycle - 2,000-3,500 seats
The Hemicycle uses a cut down version of the regular seating sections and is ideal for recitals, one-man shows, acoustic performances, or corporate events and presentations.
AMM (Mixed Martial Arts) – 16,000 – 19,000 seats (center stage)
NBA – 20,000 seats
http://www.centrebell.ca/en/page/venue_specifications
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Originally posted by bey0nce
This is all he sent me 
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oh my god 
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
You guys need to stop arguing over the Australian dates.
None of them have sold out. Infact tonights show in Sydney has a massive red curtain covering more than half of the seating areas. Australia wasn't a success but that's not to say other areas of the world won't be.
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OMG
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
You guys need to stop arguing over the Australian dates.
None of them have sold out. Infact tonights show in Sydney has a massive red curtain covering more than half of the seating areas. Australia wasn't a success but that's not to say other areas of the world won't be.
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Originally posted by Smithy
welp
maybe wait until a show is over
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I'm sorry but that's the stage
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
I'm sorry but that's the stage |
What's wrong with it? 
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Kii @ ppl quoting the before show pic
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The bitching and whining in a boxscores thread whew.
Slay, crippled and irrelevant queen!
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Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
What's wrong with it?
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Kii @ ppl quoting the before show pic |
This is all deja vu I remember monsters doing this exact thing in the Prismatic tour boxscore thread 
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
This is all deja vu I remember monsters doing this exact thing in the Prismatic tour boxscore thread |
Not all monsters are that stupid, and I'm sure most kitty cats aren't either.
Spread online kindness.
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Dead @ people kii-ing at Gaga's touring receipts when the artRAVE is most likely going to outgross the Teenage Dream (6 #1 singles) era with just 1 top 5 single. Like, give it a break.
Those Brisbane numbers have got to be wrong, I was there and there was NO space on the floor, no safety zone at the back like there has been everywhere else. The floor was packed and there was a maximum of 300-400 empty seats.
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Originally posted by MrJacob
Those Brisbane numbers have got to be wrong, I was there and there was NO space on the floor, no safety zone at the back like there has been everywhere else. The floor was packed and there was a maximum of 300-400 empty seats.
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This, the floor was packed and i could only see a few empty seats here and there.
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Neither Sydney date had the curtains once the show started. Madonna fans talk about how Gaga fans "use fake photos to fit an agenda," but that's exactly what you're doing. Try using photos like the ones below that were taken during the show.
Blurry, but you can see lights from where the curtains would've been had they not been removed.
Gaga wins again. 
Dark, but curtains are not visible.
Let's see the haters try it now.
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Originally posted by Nialler
How was it her peak if her current PWT will gross at least twice as much? The struggle to make artRave look successful |
Oh, so now touring is the indicator of one's peak and not sales? Isn't sales what you guys use to define Gaga's peak? The struggle to change definitions to make your fave seem like she hasn't peaked.
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Originally posted by Bang Up
Neither Sydney date had the curtains once the show started. Madonna fans talk about how Gaga fans "use fake photos to fit an agenda," but that's exactly what you're doing. Try using photos like the ones below that were taken during the show.
Blurry, but you can see lights from where the curtains would've been had they not been removed.
Gaga wins again.
Dark, but curtains are not visible.
Let's see the haters try it now.
Oh, so now touring is the indicator of one's peak and not sales? Isn't sales what you guys use to define Gaga's peak? The struggle to change definitions to make your fave seem like she hasn't peaked. |
You're false.
The 2nd Sidney show had the highest seating tier curtained, just like the 2nd Melbourne and Perth shows. There is no need to try to fake or cover up things. We just have to face the facts and admit that Gaga struggled this time around with her Australian leg (tough it did better than most of us expected). And that's mostly because of lack of any promo (besides the fact that she didn't promote the album at all over there, not even the shows were promoted. There were no commercials constantly airing on TV and almost no adds at all). I'm sure she just wanted to tour Australia for her most loyal fans, not because there was a high demand in that country or that she could milk some cash out of them, but also because dropping Australia from her touring schedule would probably mean the end of her career over there. Even tough she performed for only a quarter of how many people she performed back in 2012 with the BTWBT, avoiding those 50,000 loyal fans that wanted to see her again only 2 years later would have had a pretty bad impact on her reputation over there.
Live Nation aren't stupid, Australia is one of the world's biggest touring markets and you cannot avoid it and expect people over there to care that much anymore for you (probably unless you're Madonna).
So, as I said, the lack of hits combined with the fact that most aussies didn't even know she released a new record, had a new tour and a album to promote affected the demand there once was. The point is that there is no need to be OVERREACTING because she can just as easily jump back on the train if she does the right things and the right promo. I'm sure of it. All these people that saw her back in 2012 already knew she was crazy, that her latest singles flopped in their country, that she isn't as popular anymore as she once was, yet they still paid for tickets to see her and that merely because she promoted her record and her concerts over there and people knew what to expect.
It's funny to see those overreactions tho, it's like people pretend her touring career is over now just because she couldn't sell as many tickets in Australia as she once did. Calm down guys, she's only 6 years into her career, if she plays her cards right, she can just as easily jump back.
But anyway, let's just leave it behind. The leg is over and we can now focus on the great part of the tour: the stadiums. We got nice shows coming up and we shouldn't dismiss the success of this tour just because she didn't do as good as other in some specific markets.
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