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News: Migrant crisis in EU: AUT to build fence on border with SLO
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Originally posted by AvrilLaQueen
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I never mention terrorists, just regular people with extreme belief system. Of course not everyone is that way, but 80% of young men coming from very religious place to more liberal one, they will use the freedom and do a lot of harm to other more civilised people.
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In your mind do all syrians have the same belief system? Did it ever occur to you that they are just like everyone else, with various faiths, various levels of belief, different interpretations of religion, different outlooks of life. Gosh some of you really need to stop commenting because your prejudices are showing
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by TasteOfYourLips
As a rich Polish ex-teenager, I wish to have an IPhone like those poor Syrian refugees.
When my people had to flee, they didn't behave like a a herd of animals breaking laws, damaging public property and wasting donated food and diapers (not like we had them). Instead we were enriching science, culture and art of countries we emirgated to (eg. Frédéric Chopin, Marie Curie). Or even beyond the borders of our country, we were fighting for the liberation of it (Polish matematicians solving Enigma's algorithm or the highest scoring of RAF squadrons during the Battle of Britain, No. 303 Polish Fighter Squadron).
I wonder if you will be so happy to live in Germany when the crime rate increases by 300% like in Sweden.
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Preach it. Imagine if those polish young men had abandoned their country during WW2 like those cowards now, who leave women and children behind to reach Germany and the benefits that are waiting for them. It's really appalling how short-sighted some people are.
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Originally posted by CakeLike
In your mind do all syrians have the same belief system? Did it ever occur to you that they are just like everyone else, with various faiths, various levels of belief, different interpretations of religion, different outlooks of life. Gosh some of you really need to stop commenting because your prejudices are showing
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It's not prejudice when it's based on experience and evidence, it just is. Muslims are the root of the problem in Europe, and I'm not saying all Muslims, but way too many. Over 66% of Moroccan youth (0-17yrs old) in The Netherlands has been tied to crimes. 65% of Maroccan men between the ages of 12 and 23 has been apprehended by the police. Of every crime committed in The Netherlands by someone between the ages of 12 and 17, only 1.8% is actually Dutch and you tell me it's just prejudice and there's nothing wrong with accepting more immigrants?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Nialler
Preach it. Imagine if those polish young men had abandoned their country during WW2 like those cowards now, who leave women and children behind to reach Germany and the benefits that are waiting for them. It's really appalling how short-sighted some people are.
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I just wonder, when all these strong, able-bodied men flee their war-torn countries, who's going to be left to fight against ISIS and the corrupt governments?
Or are they going to delegate the responsibility to the very countries they're fleeing to?
A lot of these gworls, I don't believe they're refugees. Opportunist is a more appropriate term.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Nialler
Preach it. Imagine if those polish young men had abandoned their country during WW2 like those cowards now, who leave women and children behind to reach Germany and the benefits that are waiting for them. It's really appalling how short-sighted some people are.
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Using the logic of people who support those migrants, my country with a such tough history such be empty by WWII. Like the entire population should emigrate to the US or the UK.
And I still don't know how people can defend those men who leave women and children behind. I would never leave my family unprotected in war zone.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Hungarian PM Orban says 'we are going to deploy the police..we will deploy the army...step by step we will control the entire border.'
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50 years from now Orban will have been canonized (if Europe still exists)
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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Originally posted by Nialler
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Hungarian PM Orban says 'we are going to deploy the police..we will deploy the army...step by step we will control the entire border.'
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Member Since: 8/29/2009
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Originally posted by hairofglory
True, ISIS complicates things, so I guess the main takeaway from the video is that Germany can take as many refugees as it wants, but it isn't doing anything to stop the wars they are coming from. It's impossible to save them all, and Germany is essentially allowing those with the most wealth and drive to easily abandon their nation which will only perpetuate the war and cause even more suffering for those left behind. So not only is there the possibility of sleeper cells, but also the opportunity for extremists to rally in Syria, which increases the risk of extremist infiltrators entering Europe.
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as by its constitution Germany is not allowed to engage in military conflicts outside NATO and the United Nations.
For a country of its history, this is a GREAT solution. So if we want to stop the war in Syria.. NATO and the United Nations need to be on board, otherwise nothing can be done from Germany's point of view.
The German army is a defense army first and foremost.
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Originally posted by Nialler
Preach it. Imagine if those polish young men had abandoned their country during WW2 like those cowards now, who leave women and children behind to reach Germany and the benefits that are waiting for them. It's really appalling how short-sighted some people are.
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Polish men had no choice?. I cannot believe what you guys are preaching in this thread.
I am asking you again Nialler. What would you do at this time and age if your home city is being bombarded everyday by a terrorist group? What would you do if your sister and mom are being raped everyday by these people? And don't tell me yes I would fight for my country if you know there is a better life somewhere else.
Humanity has grown so insensitive. It disgust me
Some of y'all deserve a full on war to understand what are these people fleeing from
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Originally posted by AnneBoleyn
If they are highly educated then for how long do you think they will be accepting the fact that the only jobs they can get is sweeping streets, cleaning buildings or doing any other manual work. Because there is no way they'll be working according to their education.
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that is not true for Germany tho. doctors from Damaskus or engineers or bricklayers or whatever profession, can work in their profession in Germany and easily find jobs.
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This is such a complicated situation
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Originally posted by Hotshot
Come to brazil instead
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Originally posted by stevyy
that is not true for Germany tho. doctors from Damaskus or engineers or bricklayers or whatever profession, can work in their profession in Germany and easily find jobs.
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What professions have the most unemployed people in Germany?
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Europe doesn't seem to have the means to facilitate all the migrants and it's extremely dangerous for them to migrate here in the 1st place. The west (especially America) needs to help them but in their own countries and neighbouring regions and provide more aid and protection.
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Member Since: 8/29/2009
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Originally posted by Nialler
The fact that people applaud those people. Imagine if all young men fleed their countries during WW2. Nazi would have won.
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this comparison doesnt make sense since it was another era.
also the sheer speed of which Germany invaded other countries made it almost impossible to go anywhere. This fact becomes clearer when you look at the fact that 90% of Europe was occupied anyway, some countries ofc willfully threw themselves at Nazi Germany - one of which was Hungary.
today, we live in an era of globalisation of mass media. Only a small-minded fraction of deluded nationalists would go to war. If you asked Germans if they would ever take up machine guns again to shoot innocent civilians, 100% would say NO.
Every country has a trained military for wars (Germany doesn't because we only have a defense army), but if my country was invaded and our mlitary destroyed, i would leave as soon as i can and not fight some crude guerilla war from inside appartments in the inner cities.
wars in 2015 are a true indication of a failed human history.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by TasteOfYourLips
As a rich Polish ex-teenager, I wish to have an IPhone like those poor Syrian refugees.
When my people had to flee, they didn't behave like a a herd of animals breaking laws, damaging public property and wasting donated food and diapers (not like we had them). Instead we were enriching science, culture and art of countries we emirgated to (eg. Frédéric Chopin, Marie Curie). Or even beyond the borders of our country, we were fighting for the liberation of it (Polish matematicians solving Enigma's algorithm or the highest scoring of RAF squadrons during the Battle of Britain, No. 303 Polish Fighter Squadron).
I wonder if you will be so happy to live in Germany when the crime rate increases by 300% like in Sweden.
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But that's not their fault.
Jealousy is not a good look, especially when it comes to people who have nothing. People here don't even grant these people a ****ing device. ''Oh, they have a smartphone, so the can't be that poor. Let them send back to their death''
And DEATH at the lazy asses here critcizing healthy men for not wanting to go to war.
You assholes need to get a brain.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by AnneBoleyn
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Imagine if this was really offered
What about those people from Iceland who offered to take some of them in? Did anyone go?
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Russia would be dragged though for being cruel and sending them to this forgotten place. But they can travel to the US from there
I wish I was able to move to Iceland. Unfortunately I'm not a "refugee" and can't just board a plane there. I can't even afford an iPhone ngl
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So mind boggling that white people are getting upset over immigration At least these people aren't looking to commit atrocious acts of mass genocide and environmental exploitation like your people did (and to an extent still do) when they "illegally" colonized 3/4 of the world.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Chemist
Some of y'all deserve a full on war to understand what are these people fleeing from
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The sĺd truth is that, eventually, there will be a full on war if these girls come sweeping with their problems here. They're coming here in search for a better life, but forget that the paradise they dream of cannot exist with the potential economic and social instability they bring. ISIS will take advantage of these strong men effortlessly slipping through the borders. The extremists will make our lives a living hell. Can you really blame us for not wanting our towns to be "bombarded everyday by a terrorist group"? No tea no shade.
Don't let me be misunderstood, I fully sympathise with these sistren and I wish them all the best. But maybe just not in Germany?
Please clock me if I'm wrong
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