[Wonderland]

Originally posted by Redstreak

Ok but at the same time why must we continue playing patty cake with those who have a fundamental misunderstanding of the issues in order to not hurt their "fee-fees" and seem "elitist"? Why must we continue to verbally cater to them when they **** up so much for us?

You answered your own question really.. If they aren't catered for they'll **** up

[Witness]

Originally posted by Wonderland

This is what I'm wondering going forward...

Will these people stick by Trump in 4 years if he can't improve their situation? What happens if they see no improvement and also what can the Democrat say in such a circumstance to get them back on side?

Obama's fault.

[Wonderland]

Originally posted by Witness

Obama's fault.

Are you saying they'll blame Obama or the future Democrat should blame Obama?

[Yndda]

Originally posted by KareBear

Recently moved to Nassau County. Take me back to Queens

where in nassau

if you're talking about east nassau I wouldn't be surprised. suffolk voted trump.

[Damien M]

Originally posted by NE.

The reason they didn't turn out was because of the reasons I stated. Instead of inspiring people, she tried to mobilize people by fear and paranoia. I swear, I said it so many times that it would never work.

Right. Stated simply, we chose a weak, uninspiring candidate and she lost. Some of these Trump voters voted for Obama in 08 and 12, so casting the entire narrative as racism is just lazy.
Sure, it counts for a huge part of it, but not the full story.

[ClashAndBurn]

Wooooo, this country is not ready for the next four years under a fully Republican government.

African-American citizens getting slaughtered in public by our police officers on a daily basis will be the norm, and happen so frequently that it won't make the news anymore.

Latinx people will be deported by the milions.

Islam as a culture and religion will be banned from this country.

Gay marriage will be overturned in most states that did not already protect it by law.

Concentration facilities across the country will be established under the guise of conversion therapy centers.

Rape of women will also be more common. And less women will be emboldened enough to speak out on it.

Truly sad.

[DivaCup]

"Election 2016 saw a 97% reelection rate for congress despite its approval rating being only 20%. The swamp stays undrained."


Trump hates net neutrality

Broken Glass Ceiling: Kellyanne Conway First Ever Woman to Run Successful Presidential Campaign

Nooooooooooooooo

[Witness]

Originally posted by Wonderland

Are you saying they'll blame Obama or the future Democrat should blame Obama?

They'll blame Obama for every misstep Trump makes. It will always go back to the eight years of Obama. Democrats can only continue to highlight Trump's lack of pretty much everything, even though they're largely preaching to the choir.

[Sabbath]

Originally posted by Mezter

My county was largely Democratic, but wherever I go I'm looking at white people as if they voted Trump and ruined my life. I must be stopped

I literally just went thru this same thing.

And I feel guilty cause I know it's not everybody's fault - hell, NY is a blue state, but for now I just can't help it.

[Sunshine.]

Originally posted by Artemisia

It's not even innovation as much as it is wages. Profit maximization calls for minimizing labor costs. That means moving production to places like Bangladesh where you can pay people 10 cents an hour and not $7.25.

Hillary had options for these people. Tuition free/debt free college education to provide people with the ability to acquire skills to succeed in today's information based labor force and minimum wage increases, for instance. Anything but outright lying that she can bring long gone jobs back to the United States.

ANY-****ING-THING!

I understand that maybe the rhetoric the middle America voters, but really the plans were in there for them. If you can benefit the lowest minorities, the disadvantaged whites can automatically reap the rewards. (See: Public education in the South for the non-elited was started by blacks, then poor whites took over and destroyed the progress made by the black community)

If they would stop seeing everything as a racial competition. I sincerely believe race won Donald the race. Cause nothing else man...

[Beyonnaise]

I'm most mad at basically every media outlet for not even considering the possibility of him winning ever since the p*ssy video. They declared it his death knell and made a joke out of him being vanquished and the race being over when the only support he lost from it was Congressmen who backed out because of how they thought it would affect their career. His supporters weren't gonna suddenly flip after all the other filth he spewed. He was always going to underpoll just because of the stigma behind supporting such a polarizing bigot. With the curtain closed and nobody watching, 60 million people circled his name. The only accurate thing that he ever said is that he could shoot someone on the street and his supporters wouldn't care.

[Atlas]

Originally posted by Damien M

The country chose Trump. The EC has always worked this way.

Um no. It screwed us in the 2000 election and it screwed us again. So no it has not always worked

[DivaCup]

Originally posted by ClashAndBurn

Wooooo, this country is not ready for the next four years under a fully Republican government.

African-American citizens getting slaughtered in public by our police officers on a daily basis will be the norm, and happen so frequently that it won't make the news anymore.

Latinx people will be deported by the milions.

Islam as a culture and religion will be banned from this country.

Gay marriage will be overturned in most states that did not already protect it by law.

Concentration facilities across the country will be established under the guise of conversion therapy centers.

Rape of women will also be more common. And less women will be emboldened enough to speak out on it.

Truly sad.

Add the defunding/possible takedown of Planned Parenthood. No birth control or abortions, sexual health information in general, AIDS/HIV tests [which BTW is on the RISE in Pence's state of Indiana]

and Roe V Wade being possibly overturned.

[Clump]

These people feeling empowered to openly act this way

[Damien M]

Originally posted by Atlas

Um no. It screwed us in the 2000 election and it screwed us again. So no it has not always worked

He got 300+ EC votes and swept almost all the swing states. He won fair and square. This isn't a Bush 2000 situation.

[Witness]

Originally posted by Beyonnaise

I'm most mad at basically every media outlet for not even considering the possibility of him winning ever since the p*ssy video. They declared it his death knell and made a joke out of him being vanquished and the race being over when the only support he lost from it was Congressmen who backed out because of how they thought it would affect their career. His supporters weren't gonna suddenly flip after all the other filth he spewed. He was always going to underpoll just because of the stigma behind supporting such a polarizing bigot. With the curtain closed and nobody watching, 60 million people circled his name. The only accurate thing that he ever said is that he could shoot someone on the street and his supporters wouldn't care.

Hopefully this is remembered four long years from now. The message in 2020 needs to be "get out and vote for your god damned lives you idiots" without any of the "lol omg Trump is so stupid this is a slam dunk!".

[Sunshine.]

So they're basically trying to rebuild a white, Christian, patriarchy?

[Digital]

Originally posted by 19SLAYty9

is there any possible way enough people can revolt?

Nope.

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The electoral college has always been a **** ass system. The way to get people to really get out and vote is to show that their votes really do matter is to get rid of the electoral college and only keep the popular vote. I've always felt this way since I learned about government when I was a kid so it isn't because Hillary lost.

[Yndda]

can the thread title be changed. we need to have HOPE in these dark times.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by Damien M

Democrats needed a wake up call. We've become a party for east/west coast elites and social justice warriors, ignored everyone in between.

That's not the problem. The probably is those ****ers don't vote. Those are HUGE demographics.