[TSLGNMA]

Originally posted by Buddy!

I swear to god if I find out anyone in my radical history class voted for Trump tomorrow WOO.

White devils WILL catch these hands

I'm taking American politics now and tomorrow we will be lectured about presidential elections (it was planned for the lecture to fall on the days after the election on purpose). S*** is about to go down.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by nick4bty

I can't believe Trump will end up with 306 delegates to Hillary's 228. He literally crushed her. I assumed he would make it by just a few superdelegates, if that, but he literally beat her by 68 delegates.

[NE.]

Originally posted by Artemisia

You're moving the goalposts. You're trying to make this into a total rejection of Clinton and it just wasn't.

Like I said, I feel like it was about half her fault. I obviously feel anti-establisment, white supremacy, and sexism had something to do with it, but I think Democrats kept trying to bury her skeletons and not hold her partly accountable to her downfall.

[LuLuDrops]

Originally posted by Jeiboy

Why the popular vote wont be counted? Educate me American atrlers?

The points system based on population of a state. It's more about winning the strategic areas than the national vote.

[Lose My Breath]

Several coworkers/friends have had their kids come home in tears because of comments made from other students, they're being called racial slurs, and teased. This election has already had such a major impact on the lives of so many

[Delilah.]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

As I've said, they can go **** themselves.

yep basically

[Mike91]

Originally posted by NE.

There are several reasons that Hillary lost this election and you all can chalk it up to same bleeding heart narratives that Democrats thought would carry them, but 50% of her loss comes down to her own actions and her camp and supporters tried to bury it and act like she was above the law and reproach and demonize anyone who spoke up against her. So what happened? They stayed silent, backed up their word and went and made their voice heard.

1.) Let this be a lesson to anyone and everyone out there: Who you are behind close doors and when nobody is looking MATTERS. All these politicians believe everything is fair game until they are caught and then want to do damage control.

Between Wikileaks, her emails, Benghazi, etc. America saw through her sense of entitlement and lies and it and it didn't fool anyone. She lacked integrity about her actions and she was willing to burn bridges with Bernie supporters and cheat with the DNC.

2.) The election is a numbers game. You have the votes, you win, case closed. It doesn't matter how you get them or who you're getting them from. I'm confident the moment Hillary made her "deplorables" comment, she lost the election. Why? She insulted and completely alienated an entire constituency, which happens to make up the majority of the United States population. Democrats (yes, many of you in here) thought they could bully and mock uneducated white voters for the past 8 years and thought they could keep them muzzled.

Trump stoked the fire with this constiuency, but Hillary poured gasoline on it, and only furthered her elitist ideologies and it set her up to fail. I called it several times, and nobody listened. They may be racist, uneducated, and idiotic, but they are VOTERS and they came out with a vengeance.

3.) The Democrats have not done anything for minorities for the past 20 years and the exit polls show that a surprising number of minority voters turned out for Trump because they felt they had nothing to lose anymore by kissing Dems asses. The Clintons contributed to turmoil in the Black community with the Crime bill and people do NOT forget. Instead of making amends to the issues that her family contributed to, she opted to insult our intelligence and think whipping and nae-naeing and carrying hot sauce was going to gain favorability. She even went the elitist route once again and tried using celebrity star power to mobilize Blacks. Who the **** was going to vote because of Beyonce and Pharrell's shucking and jiving?

The condescending spite and lack of humility to democracy even AFTER she's already finished represents the tip of the iceberg of why Democrats were destined to take the L. We can talk about morals and -isms all day, but it won't change the outcome. Accept the results, wipe your tears, and realize she put up a good fight, but Hillary played dirty and people saw through it. There's nothing to protest, America decided.

And it's frustrating that most of the tears are coming from white liberals who have nothing to lose over this. They can resume to their beds and wake up in 4 years and not worry about their safety. It is us minorities who have already been talking about the deep-rooted hate and privilege that still exists in America while white liberals have turned a blind eye and only "cared" about our issues when it came down to get our votes.

I can only hope and pray that President Trump can turn out to be a good president and lessons are learned. I abstained, but damn sure over my dead boy, my superpredator ass was never giving her my vote.

I agree. Imagine what is going to happen to voting rights. Also the bigger platform for racism. It's scary to think about what will happen with minorities in this country for the next 4 years.

A lot of people on the left like Michael Moore, etc saw this coming. I live in Ohio and I could tell right away it was going to vote for Trump. Towns here are hallowed out because of trade deals, etc. People who supported Bernie saw this coming as well. When he one states like Wisconsin and Michigan, I felt like they could be struggles for Hillary because it was Bernie's message that won him those states. Unfortunately Hillary ran an old fashioned campaign and she was ultimately not the answer to the plight of the working class.

We on the left need to realize we are not better than anyone else. We have to start winning back the working class and realize that our degrees do not put us above anyone else. Not mention, you saw some millennials vote Trump yesterday because they're strapped with debt or couldn't go to college because they couldn't afford it and there aren't many options available to them for a good living without it.

And Chuck Schumer cannot be the leader of the democratic party going forward. We need someone who has mass appeal. I'd say Bernie but he's not going to run again in 2020 and I'm not entirely sure Warren will either. They need to be vocal and still play a visible and vocal role but they are not getting any younger. We need to build someone up who can make a universal pitch to everyone. Have them visit rural areas and start building up name recognition for 2020. We can't be too far to the left on guns, immigration, etc.

[Lord Blackout]

People want to make themselves feel better about Trump but literally all of his policies are doable besides the Muslim ban. You guys treated the election like a reality show, well I'm treating the next 4 years like a reality show. Bring on the worst policies possible

[ToxicKat]

When does Scandal start? I'm going to delude myself into thinking that Papi Carlos Solis or Mellie Grant is going to be our next president.

Don't care about the real word right now

[Adonis]

Originally posted by NE.

If that's the case, then why are people blaming misogyny for her loss?

Most of her popular vote numbers are coming from highly densed populated liberal states like California. She lost fairly and the electoral college is not the problem.

It is a problem because my vote gets watered down more than someone who lives in a less populous state. Why should a red state vote count more than a blue state vote simply because of their location? The blue states are paying all the bills.

[NE.]

Originally posted by Mike91

I agree. Imagine what is going to happen to voting rights. Also the bigger platform for racism. It's scary to think about what will happen with minorities in this country for the next 4 years.

A lot of people on the left like Michael Moore, etc saw this coming. I live in Ohio and I could tell right away it was going to vote for Trump. Towns here are hallowed out because of trade deals, etc. People who supported Bernie saw this coming as well. When he one states like Wisconsin and Michigan, I felt like they could be struggles for Hillary because it was Bernie's message that won him those states. Unfortunately Hillary ran an old fashioned campaign and she was ultimately not the answer to the plight of the working class.

We on the left need to realize we are not better than anyone else. We have to start winning back the working class and realize that our degrees do not put us above anyone else. Not mention, you saw some millennials vote Trump yesterday because they're strapped with debt or couldn't go to college because they couldn't afford it and there aren't many options available to them for a good living without it.

And Chuck Schumer cannot be the leader of the democratic party going forward. We need someone who has mass appeal. I'd say Bernie but he's not going to run again in 2020 and I'm not entirely sure Warren will either. They need to be vocal and still play a visible and vocal role but they are not getting any younger. We need to build someone up who can make a universal pitch to everyone. Have them visit rural areas and start building up name recognition for 2020. We can't be too far to the left on guns, immigration, etc.

And the biggest reverse warholian experience is that unlike Trump, Hillary actually came from poor and humble beginnings. She of all people should have known that working class white votes are a powerful electorate.

[Temporal]

Have y'all seen that Tumblr post about the electoral college? Giving me false hope

[Beatfreak]

This country is going to split up. Bookmark me.

[Alchemist]

Yesterday was definitely the worst day of my life

[NE.]

Originally posted by Beatfreak

This country is going to split up. Bookmark me.

It basically already is.

[Artemisia]

Originally posted by NE.

Like I said, I feel like it was about half her fault. I obviously feel anti-establisment, white supremacy, and sexism had something to do with it, but I think Democrats kept trying to bury her skeletons and not hold her partly accountable to her downfall.

yeah, there's no excusing that 7 million turnout deficit. the base didn't show out as much as they should have

[MissedTheTrain]

I just made a thread for this, but here's some optimism:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/dont-panic/

Hopefully, after the next few days, the protests and stuff die down. I don't know what people expect to come from them, but in the long run they might cause more harm than good. We need to just accept this reality and get through it the best way we can.

[Adonis]

Originally posted by Mike91

I agree. Imagine what is going to happen to voting rights. Also the bigger platform for racism. It's scary to think about what will happen with minorities in this country for the next 4 years.

A lot of people on the left like Michael Moore, etc saw this coming. I live in Ohio and I could tell right away it was going to vote for Trump. Towns here are hallowed out because of trade deals, etc. People who supported Bernie saw this coming as well. When he one states like Wisconsin and Michigan, I felt like they could be struggles for Hillary because it was Bernie's message that won him those states. Unfortunately Hillary ran an old fashioned campaign and she was ultimately not the answer to the plight of the working class.

We on the left need to realize we are not better than anyone else. We have to start winning back the working class and realize that our degrees do not put us above anyone else. Not mention, you saw some millennials vote Trump yesterday because they're strapped with debt or couldn't go to college because they couldn't afford it and there aren't many options available to them for a good living without it.

And Chuck Schumer cannot be the leader of the democratic party going forward. We need someone who has mass appeal. I'd say Bernie but he's not going to run again in 2020 and I'm not entirely sure Warren will either. They need to be vocal and still play a visible and vocal role but they are not getting any younger. We need to build someone up who can make a universal pitch to everyone. Have them visit rural areas and start building up name recognition for 2020. We can't be too far to the left on guns, immigration, etc.

Tbqh, the rust belt states need to stop blaming trade deals for their problems and take responsibility for the fact that they sat around and didn't educate themselves and update their skills to compete in a 2016 economy.

Voting for Trump changes nothing about their current circumstances. The trade deals make it easier for us to export our good overseas. The problem is they are unable to compete with the likes Asia because they didn't educate and innovate. They need to take personal responsibility and stop looking for immigrants and trade deals to blame when white privialedge is far more valuable for getting jobs than anything else. The rust belt had a built in advantage and squandered it.

The rust belt sat on their butts and watched the rest of the world out innovate them in the manufacturing arena to the point it no longer made sense to do business in those areas. It is not going to change for a very long time. No amount of tariffs and other government intervention will make uneducated people ready for global competition.

[xxtinaxx]

I am in Madison, WI. I said before that most Wisconnites didn't like her due to the trust issues. They are very pro-Bernie. He won like 84%. I know a few friends who stayed home because they didnt like Hill.

[Beatfreak]

Originally posted by NE.

It basically already is.

I mean officially, though. New borders, separate nations.