Also let's clarify we aren't protesting just because we are against the regime. We are TIRED. We can't take another minute of this, and much less the many decades that await us. We've been patient and haven't done anything too important for years, but we got to this point out of desperation, not because we think it's the easy way out in fact there's no easy way out for this.
Guys share this video please! It explains a lot of what's happening:
Remember people that aren't from Latin America may have a hard time understanding what's happening..
Yes, have you been talking to Venezuelans? That's a good understanding of the situation, and deeper than what you'd get from a news station..
I might add that not all the people that attend the colleges created during Chavez are supporters of the regime. Most of them are just trying to get a degree, the worst part is that sometimes they are forced to attend the government's rallies. It's well known that during their rallies there are people reading from lists in which you have to say "present" when your name is called to ensure that you attended, otherwise you lose getting kicked out of college, same thing happens with public employees (more than half of the country's employees and a number growing rapidly), they risk losing their jobs. In 2004 when people signed a petition to start a recall referendum for Chavez, everyone that worked for the government and signed lost their jobs. People didn't think the petition would be made public but Chavez decided AFTERWARDS to make it public cause he claimed many signs were fake and people had the right to know if someone had signed for them. This is the stuff that people are starting to get used to here and seeing it as something normal that just happens, us the remaining citizens that haven't been brainwashed and understand how a democracy works are doing our last attempt to win democracy back, people think the regime is only going to get worse and that in a few years time the few rights we still have will be taken away too with the excuse that we are "saboteurs" and that it is our fault that the economy is in shambles. Can you believe the government blames the people for the food shortages? They say it's our fault for buying too much when in reality most mothers can't find ANY milk to feed their children with, and the same happens with at least 20 other basic goods (but less basic goods are scarce now too). I am DONE, if you want to buy a scarce good you have to stand in line for at least 4 hours (sometimes twice as long) or buy them from peddlers at ridiculous prices. Truth is this regime RUINED Venezuela, as simple as that.
Yes i have talked to venezuelans, you see my sister's husband is venezuelan, he left the country some years ago and he came here to the us to work on a company, he had his visa and now that he married my sister he's got a green card(he better watch out 'cuz i'm ready to pull his wig if he doesn't behave ) so, we are very good friends, he has put me in contact with a lot of his friends that remain in the country
one of the things i got told was that now your "president" is saying that you can the referendum thing all over again, but this time the signs will have a photo support and digital fingerprint support, i mean, WHAT KIND OF SICK PEOPLE ARE THEY? they are beasically telling people that if you sign to bring them down you'll be probably searched and if you work in any goverment related company, organization or public facility you'll get fired, and MOST LIKELY if you try to leave the country you'll probably be denied like they do to cubans who are known to be goverment "dislikers" since there's no such thing as the possibility of oposition in cuba
seriously, your country is at high risk of becoming a 21st century CUBA, it's not going to be exactly the same, but it's going to be a more twisted version of it.
Yes i have talked to venezuelans, you see my sister's husband is venezuelan, he left the country some years ago and he came here to the us to work on a company, he had his visa and now that he married my sister(he better watch out 'cuz i'm ready to pull his wig if he doesn't behave ) so, we are very good friends, he has put me in contact with a lot of his friends that remain in the country
one of the things i got told was that now your "president" is saying that you can the referendum thing all over again, but this time the signs will have a photo support and digital fingerprint support, i mean, WHAT KIND OF SICK PEOPLE ARE THEY? they are beasically telling people that if you sign to bring them down you'll be probably searched and if you work in any goverment related company, organization or public facility you'll get fire, and MOST LIKELY if you try to leave the country you'll probably be denied like they do to cubans who are known to be goverment "dislikers" since there's no such thing as the possibility of oposition in cuba hno:
seriously, your country is at high risk of becoming a 21st century CUBA, it's not going to be exactly the same, but it's going to be a more twisted version of it.
Where are you/your parents originally from?
Yeah, that's so sick. They have everything rigged and not ONE Venezuelan institution dares say the SMALLEST thing against it. No one, absolutely no one, disagrees with Maduro. The armed forces are openly "chavista" and "socialist", every soldier is forced to say it which is against the constitution but who is going to say anything? No one with power. It's sickening seriously.
Quote:
Originally posted by Constitución de Venezuela
Artículo 328:
La Fuerza Armada Nacional constituye una institución esencialmente profesional, sin militancia política, organizada por el Estado para garantizar la independencia y soberanía de la Nación y asegurar la integridad del espacio geográfico, mediante la defensa militar, la cooperación en el mantenimiento del orden interno y la participación activa en el desarrollo nacional, de acuerdo con esta Constitución y con la ley. En el cumplimiento de sus funciones, está al servicio exclusivo de la Nación y en ningún caso al de persona o parcialidad política alguna. Sus pilares fundamentales son la disciplina, la obediencia y la subordinación. La Fuerza Armada Nacional está integrada por el Ejército, la Armada, la Aviación y la Guardia Nacional, que funcionan de manera integral dentro del marco de su competencia para el cumplimiento de su misión, con un régimen de seguridad social integral propio, según lo establezca su respectiva ley orgánica.
Yet:
Everyone knows we are more than halfway there to becoming the new Cuba
i've done a bit of investigating on the whole subject and i think i'm rather informed (hablo español por cierto LOS VEO )
1-. The goverment is in power of the whole state
2-. your country is statized, meaning that most of the country's most important incomes are owned by the goverment
3-. the goverment also owns a big number of tv & radio stations, and the ones that are not owned suffer from constant threats of closure if they cover whatever the goverment is hiding
4-. your population is extremely polarized, as i understand last year's presidential elections were basically a 50/50 scenario(wich is very rare ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD) and as i understand last year a lot of people also protested because of acusations of FRAUD
5-. these protests are being held mostly by universitarians from Private coleges and "Autonomus" coleges that are of the few things that the goverment finances but ISN'T in control of, there are a bunch of other coleges that are financed by the goverment but haven't joined the cause because they are mostly "goverment enthusiasts"
6-. the protests are being repressed by the goverment who infiltrates( and SUPPORTS) groups of civilians that hold ilegal weaponery WTF???, these groups cause trouble then the goverment has an excuse to throw **** and sinks at you and as there's no MEDIA COVERAGE FROM ANYONE they just say whatever they want to say and their supporters won't have any other source that says otherwise
7-. your country is going through a horrible social and economic crisis, the biggest inflationary rate in the world, shortages of stocks(that goes from food, MEDICINES WTF?, products of all kinds, etc.), one of the most dangerous places in the world, and to top it off! OUT of the people who commit crimes only 1 out of 10 gets caught and receives a trial
8-. the goverment KNOWS they have a lot of their suporters in an angry moment, that they are not happy and they constantly try to move the media's attention to this, ergo, making the problems "dissapear" from the pubic eye to focus it on anything else
DID I GET IT RIGHT ?
i still can't beleive people still support this goverment and that more people haven't joined the students' cause wich in a big picture is everyone's cause
i bless you all and i will continue to be in sight of everything's that's going on
4-. your population is extremely polarized, as i understand last year's presidential elections were basically a 50/50 scenario(wich is very rare ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD) and as i understand last year a lot of people also protested because of acusations of FRAUD
Yes and no. We may have once been at an equal ratio but it's safe to say that's not been the case for months, maybe even a few years. And the elections were rigged. The institution that handles and is responsible for the elections belongs to the government of course.
La situación aqui en puerto ordaz es HORRIBLE, el gas lacrimógeno persiste en ela ire. Represión en el medio de la noche como los cobardes que son. Más tarde les traigo detalles.
La situación aqui en puerto ordaz es HORRIBLE, el gas lacrimógeno persiste en ela ire. Represión en el medio de la noche como los cobardes que son. Más tarde les traigo detalles.
No sabía que las cosas estaban muy feas por allá. Aquí en Puerto Cabello están protestando por dos estudiantes que fueron privados de libertad sin ningún tipo de orden por el SEBIN.
Bueno chicas les vengo a echar el cuento de Puerto Ordaz, casi todo lo vi yo mismo y otras cosas las vi en las redes.
A las 3am se corrió el rumor que a las 4am reprimirían la vigilia pacífica, luego a las 4 se evidenció movimiento de tanquetas, ballenas, motorizados y camionetas de la guardia. Llegaron en la madrugada como los malandros que son. Le dieron 3 minutos a los estudiantes para dispersarse pero se mantuvieron firmes y se sentaron en el piso cantando el Himno Nacional. Soy testigo que jamás lanzaron 1 piedra ni quemaron caucho ni NADA. Terminado los 3 min procedieron a lanzar docenas de bombas lacrimógenas (incluso hacia las ventanas y estacionamientos de los edificios) y perdigones, algunos estudiantes resultaron alcanzados por los perdigones y a algunos le pegaron las bombas en la cara. Los estudiantes buscaron refugio en los edificios cercanos donde la gente le abrió las puertas, mientras tanto llovía insultos a la guardia y a las 6am seguía prendido el cacerolazo. Los guardias avanzaron (parecía que iban a la guerra) hacia plaza monumental donde destruyeron toldos y se llevaron comida y agua que tenían los manifestantes. La represión duró aproximadamente hasta las 8am. En cada esquina había una patrulla (no estoy exagerando) así que el que veían solo por ahí se lo llevaban, muchos estudiantes siguieron reagrupándose y mantuvieron el frente de lucha hacia el Paseo Caroní donde siguió la represión durante la mañana. Ha llegado muchísima gente de otras partes de la ciudad y por los momentos la situación está "tranquila". Algunas fotos:
4:00am
Estudiantes pacíficos:
Tanquetas y jeeps:
4:10am comienza la represión:
Como dejaron los toldos de la plaza monumental:
6:00 am
Ballena:
Lanzan bombas hacia dentro de los edificios e impactan algunas ventanas:
Muchas personas ancianas en los edificios, no les importó, hasta se lo merecían por cacerolear.