[igninton]

Not Croatia winning...

The Top 10 on Betting Odds is kind of perfect right now.

I'd only swap Serbia and UKRAINE() with Azerbaijan and Macedonia.

Russia, France, Sweden, Australia, Malta, Spain, Latvia, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Macedonia. It'd be the perfect and most fair Top 10 tbh.

[2014]

Croatia is now #11 & #12 on these betting sites?

it was #3 a few weeks ago

Nina better pull through, all we need is a top 10 placement!

[Hurem]

I need Spain to flop. Say Yay! irritates the hell out of me.

[Navyofbadgals]

Originally posted by Hurem

I need Spain to flop. Say Yay! irritates the hell out of me.

I agree, it's overrated

[KillingYourCareer]

Originally posted by Hurem

I need Spain to flop. Say Yay! irritates the hell out of me.

It won't flop as hard as Amenecer but let's safely say that it won't be top 15. It's truly a song that says nothing at all to me, and I don't see much stanning for it outside of the Spanish stans.

[Torturo]

Originally posted by igninton

Not Croatia winning...

The Top 10 on Betting Odds is kind of perfect right now.

I'd only swap Serbia and UKRAINE() with Azerbaijan and Macedonia.

Russia, France, Sweden, Australia, Malta, Spain, Latvia, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Macedonia. It'd be the perfect and most fair Top 10 tbh.

your taste sis...

[Schhh]

I'd like to see these songs going to final:

- Hungary
- Croatia
- The Netherlands
- Russia
- Czech Republic
- Cyprus
- Austria
- Azerbaijan
- Malta
- Bosnia and Herzegovina

- Latvia
- Poland
- Switzerland
- Serbia
- Macedonia
- Australia
- Bulgaria
- Norway
- Albania
- Belgium

[Torturo]

Sergey collapsed on the stage last night

[KylieistBoi]

Originally posted by KillingYourCareer

Ukraine will be #1 in jury vote imo lol. Armenia won't do good in televote?

12 points from Czech Republic
12 points from Georgia
12 points from the Netherlands
(10-12 points from Germany - she's a big star there)
10 points from Belgium
10 points from France
8 points from Greece
8 points from Cyprus
8 points from Russia
7-8 points from Ukraine
7-8 points from Poland
7-8 points from Bulgaria
7-8 points from Israel

100+ points from migrant voting alone. Look at who voted for them in 2006-7, when they ended top 10...

There is literally no way Ukraine is coming close to top 5 in the jury voting. Let's wait and see for Armenia then because that song won't appeal to the general public and possibly even immigrants won't vote for that artsy mess.

[beatinglikeadrum]

Originally posted by Torturo

Sergey collapsed on the stage last night

He is falling faster than his country in odds.

Poland will be Top 5 in semi and Top 10 in contest. TVP will do everything to make everyone to believe Szpak was a good choice. Poor Vietnam ppl. Poor imigrants.

[Hurem]

Originally posted by Torturo

Sergey collapsed on the stage last night

dd; @ no one doing anything for a good minute

[Dante™]

slay at serbia still in top 10 on odds

[getinthezone]

Originally posted by KylieistBoi

There is literally no way Ukraine is coming close to top 5 in the jury voting. Let's wait and see for Armenia then because that song won't appeal to the general public and possibly even immigrants won't vote for that artsy mess.

They'll both be top 10

[KillingYourCareer]

Originally posted by KylieistBoi

There is literally no way Ukraine is coming close to top 5 in the jury voting. Let's wait and see for Armenia then because that song won't appeal to the general public and possibly even immigrants won't vote for that artsy mess.

But it's Ukraine, a country the entire Europe feels sympathy for, bringing a song against Russia, a country the entire Europe dislikes. As for Armenia, there's no way to stop the migrants (they snatched almost 100 televoting points last year with that song that is arguably the worst Eurovision song of all time).

[KillingYourCareer]

I just realized how overrated Sweden is by the bookmarkers. Here's how betting odds predicted Sweden to do in the night of the final vs. reality:

2000
Bookmarkers: 6th
Result: 7th

2001
Bookmarkers: 2nd
Result: 5th

2002
Bookmarkers: 2nd
Result: 8th

2003
Bookmarkers: 11th
Result: 8th

2004
Bookmarkers: 3rd
Result: 5th (6th with the current system)

2005
Bookmarkers: 13th
Result: 19th

2006
Bookmarkers: 1st
Result: 5th

2007
Bookmarkers: 1st at the beginning of May; 3rd on the day of the contest
Result: 18th

2008
Bookmarkers: 5th
Result: 12th in the semifinal but qualified thanks to the juries; 18th in the final

2009
Bookmarkers: 9th
Result: 21st (15th in televote)

2010
Bookmarkers: 9th (before the semi)
Result: didn't qualify from the semifinal

2011
Bookmarkers: 5th
Result: 3rd (2nd in televote)

2012
Bookmarkers: 1st
Result: 1st

2013
Bookmarkers: 11th
Result: 14th (18th in televote)

2014
Bookmarkers: 1st
Result: 3rd (4th in televote)

2015
Bookmarkers: 1st
Result: 1st (3rd in televote)

[Hurem]

Hope Azerbaijan does well (but doesn't win). :duca. Miracle is a bop.

[GypsyLife]

Originally posted by KillingYourCareer

Ukraine will be #1 in jury vote imo lol. Armenia won't do good in televote?

12 points from Czech Republic
12 points from Georgia
12 points from the Netherlands
(10-12 points from Germany - she's a big star there)
10 points from Belgium
10 points from France
8 points from Greece
8 points from Cyprus
8 points from Russia
7-8 points from Ukraine
7-8 points from Poland
7-8 points from Bulgaria
7-8 points from Israel

100+ points from migrant voting alone. Look at who voted for them in 2006-7, when they ended top 10...

Stop that, Belgium is always getting the Dutch 12 points and vice versa

[Yomaku]

Originally posted by GypsyLife

Stop that, Belgium is always getting the Dutch 12 points and vice versa

Pretty sure 2013 was the first time in many many years that they exchanged 12s.

[KillingYourCareer]

Originally posted by GypsyLife

Stop that, Belgium is always getting the Dutch 12 points and vice versa

Only if one of them goes to the final.

[WalkAway]

Originally posted by Torturo

Sergey collapsed on the stage last night

Nnnnn... at them clapping and cheering. They thought it's some sort of gimmick.