Nnnn sis where have you seen the stuff I bolded? I've been following the thread(s) on ATRL regarding this issue and NEVER have I seen pro-Nazi/anti-Jew slander like that.....
Are you telling me that I'm lying? I reported them myself.
No, you are Anti-Semitic if you say that you want all Jews to be impaled, you want them to burn in hell and you wish Hitler would finish his job or come back. ALL of which I read in this thread or similar threads made here on this conflict.
Has there been actual proof Hamas uses human shields?
Just the fact that they put rockets inside school should be enough but I'm kinda sorry I dunno where is the picture that was flaoting around my facebook of a roof of a building IDF was about to hit becuase there were terrorist inside and they shoot a warning shoot so civilians would leave and instead few seconds after you could see the roof filled with palestinians.
The sad part?There were children on top of that roof! I mean. Lets say they weren't pushed by Hamas people to do this and they wanted to stop IDF from attacking, why risk your kid?!
Not 100% true. Maybe some do but if you read the comments on this thread you'll see why.
I don't care when people judge my country, I judge my country as well.
But you can't judge one side and give the other side full support no matter what, that's called hypocrisy. And that's exactly what people in this thread are doing because of probably one thing and only, and it's hate. Doesn't matter if it's hate of Jews or hate for Israel.
A discussion is a conversation between two or more people that understand that there are two side to a coin, that listen and not ignore what makes their ideology a bit more complicated. And that's not happening over here.
That's my take at least.
I don't feel that the issue is indeed 100% Israel's fault (Israeli teens were kidnapped and murdered, etc.). HOWEVER, I feel that Israel is to blame for the current scale of the situation. Hamas isn't right for sending rockets into Israel, but Israel is in the wrong for more or less pounding Gaza on a daily basis with not only a ground assault, but also airstrikes. A Germany/Belgium WW1 & WW2 Blitzkrieg tea. Israel also shouldn't be claiming that civilians are either assisting Hamas or being used as human shileds when several Gaza civilians came forward to Russian/USA press (Abby Martin) saying that Israel calls, demands that you evacuate your home and leave the area. If you refuse, you're a "human shield". But my boyfriend is Jewish and his family has connections to Israel, so I'm gonna keep it cute. I feel that now international intervention is necessary. Not the US, since my country is clearly not going to truly assist in a non-biased way. Hell, even Russia could intervene and do something to at least create a cease fire and police both sides.
Hamas are great victims aren't they. They conveniently forget about the cease fires they have broken, bombs they have planted and missiles they have fired, why? Because Hamas won't let reporters in to the areas where their missiles are that's why. Israel will so all you ever see in TV are the Israeli guns and missiles firing and the 'victims' of these 'atrocities'.
Israel has every right to protect itself after yet another ceasefire was broken yestarday.
Also yesterday a Hamas terror group managed to use one of their tunnels to attack a kibbutz, with the intention of killing civilians... 5 Israeli soldiers died protecting families.
People here can't undestand against who israel is fighting!
This is son of one of the leaders of Hamas, he'll tell you.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KakxXN5Z-XI
quote: “Hamas does not care about the lives of Palestinians, or the lives of Israelis, or Americans; they don’t care about their own lives” Yousef said.
“They consider dying for their ideology a way of worship."
“Hamas is not seeking coexistence and compromise; Hamas is seeking conquest,” he added.
“The destruction of the state of Israel is not the Hamas final destination.”
Hamas, Yousef asserted, Hamas wants to build an Islamic state “on the rubble of every other civilization.”
Mosab Hassan Yousef - the son of Hamas - during an interview with CNN, July 2014.
Ok.
Lets discuss this one by one.
First of all about the "cease fire", tell me, how exactly Hamas will follow this cease fire while Israel still doing the ground operations in the Gaza strip? I cant understand your and everybodys logic how Hamas should just sit back watching the Israeli army doing their operations in the strip? Explain to me PLEASE. And before I move to the next, inst this cease fire ONE SIDED? Doesnt that mean that Hamas didnt break any cease fire since they DIDNT APPROVE IT? The Israeli goverment wanted to extend the cease fire but Hamas refused to, so how can Hamas break something that doesnt actually approven by both sides?
Second of all this soldiers thing, the Gaza strip is under attack from Israel, and ofcourse Hamas as a resistance will fight back, you think that they will sit back Israel randomly killing and shelling Palestinian people (and ofc members of Hamas) without them fighting back and trying to damage the attacking side? And cut it with the "Hamas targeting civilians" in that operations, for Gods sake STOP LYING, they targeted a MILITARY SOLDIERS at the end of the tunnel they used, there was no kibbutz whatsoever and civilians, and they tried to kidnap a Israeli soldier but they failed.
Third of all, I searched for that person in the video and BYE. GOOD ****ING BYE. is youre going to use a ISLAM HATER who cant breathe without attacking Islam (who is obv why hed attack Hamas) then I cant take you seriously.
Bye Felicia!
Ok.
Lets discuss this one by one.
First of all about the "cease fire", tell me, how exactly Hamas will follow this cease fire while Israel still doing the ground operations in the Gaza strip? I cant understand your and everybodys logic how Hamas should just sit back watching the Israeli army doing their operations in the strip? Explain to me PLEASE. And before I move to the next, inst this cease fire ONE SIDED? Doesnt that mean that Hamas didnt break any cease fire since they DIDNT APPROVE IT? The Israeli goverment wanted to extend the cease fire but Hamas refused to, so how can Hamas break something that doesnt actually approven by both sides?
Second of all this soldiers thing, the Gaza strip is under attack from Israel, and ofcourse Hamas as a resistance will fight back, you think that they will sit back Israel randomly killing and shelling Palestinian people (and ofc members of Hamas) without them fighting back and trying to damage the attacking side? And cut it with the "Hamas targeting civilians" in that operations, for Gods sake STOP LYING, they targeted a MILITARY SOLDIERS at the end of the tunnel they used, there was no kibbutz whatsoever and civilians, and they tried to kidnap a Israeli soldier but they failed.
Third of all, I searched for that person in the video and BYE. GOOD ****ING BYE. is youre going to use a ISLAM HATER who cant breathe without attacking Islam (who is obv why hed attack Hamas) then I cant take you seriously.
Bye Felicia!
I'm not going to answer everything since this wasn't directed to me but here's an explantion for the first part which is pretty simple.
The cease-fire was suppose to happen more than one time, the first time there was suppose to be a cease-fire, it was before Israel even started a ground attack on Gaza, it was early on.
I'm not going to answer everything since this wasn't directed to me but here's an explantion for the first part which is pretty simple.
The cease-fire was suppose to happen more than one time, the first time there was suppose to be a cease-fire, it was before Israel even started a ground attack on Gaza, it was early on.
I don't feel that the issue is indeed 100% Israel's fault (Israeli teens were kidnapped and murdered, etc.). HOWEVER, I feel that Israel is to blame for the current scale of the situation. Hamas isn't right for sending rockets into Israel, but Israel is in the wrong for more or less pounding Gaza on a daily basis with not only a ground assault, but also airstrikes. A Germany/Belgium WW1 & WW2 Blitzkrieg tea. Israel also shouldn't be claiming that civilians are either assisting Hamas or being used as human shileds when several Gaza civilians came forward to Russian/USA press (Abby Martin) saying that Israel calls, demands that you evacuate your home and leave the area. If you refuse, you're a "human shield". But my boyfriend is Jewish and his family has connections to Israel, so I'm gonna keep it cute. I feel that now international intervention is necessary. Not the US, since my country is clearly not going to truly assist in a non-biased way. Hell, even Russia could intervene and do something to at least create a cease fire and police both sides.
First of all, it's kinda funny that you say Putin, since, well.. If Putin had a "Gaza strip" in Russia, that would fire rockets into the middle of Russia. There would be no "Gaza strip" in a matter of hours, not days.
Now lets spin the wheel backward, you know what happened before what?
Here's a small reminder for you and everyone.
*rockets attack on almost a daily bases in the last few monthes from Hamas*
*3 Isrealie teenagers kidnept and found dead*
*120 rockets being fired to Israel*
*The start of milatry opartion from the IDF in Gaza strip while hundreds of missiles fall daily on Israel from Gaza strip*
So tell me again, how are we the ones to blame for this starting?
Does it matter how many did they brake?! People who want peace or care about the fact so many people have been injured would try and find a way to get to a cease fire.
Even today the Palestine Liberation Organization suggested a humanitrian cease fire for 24 hours with the option to make it longer by another 48 hours and Hamas didn't care and kept firing missiles.
I am amazed at how people don't really get who Hamas is.
Btw, They shoot once again rockets to Jerusalem. Well, maybe one of this rockets will fall in The Temple Mount (holy place for muslims, No? ) . Previous times when they shoot on Jerusalem some rockets fell in east jerusalem, For people who don't know Arabs are living there.
they shouting on civilians! they don't care about babies in Israel. Thanks gods Israel do cares about his people, if no iron dome we had more people who died.
So how do the Israeli's here explain all the protests against Israel's actions in Gaza? I mean, ever since I was young the entire world has supported Israel when they defended against Gaza's attacks, right now the entire world is telling Israel they are going too far and are abusing their victim card and all of a sudden they accuse the entire world of being anti-semitic? I don't get how that works, can any of the Israeli members explain?
So how do the Israeli's here explain all the protests against Israel's actions in Gaza? I mean, ever since I was young the entire world has supported Israel when they defended against Gaza's attacks, right now the entire world is telling Israel they are going too far and are abusing their victim card and all of a sudden they accuse the entire world of being anti-semitic? I don't get how that works, can any of the Israeli members explain?
If this is the type of people who protest against Israel, I can live with it.. Or maybe I can't live with it, cuz' clearly peace is not what they want.
First of all, it's kinda funny that you say Putin, since, well.. If Putin had a "Gaza strip" in Russia, that would fire rockets into the middle of Russia. There would be no "Gaza strip" in a matter of hours, not days.
Now lets spin the wheel backward, you know what happened before what?
Here's a small reminder for you and everyone.
*rockets attack on almost a daily bases in the last few monthes from Hamas*
*3 Isrealie teenagers kidnept and found dead*
*120 rockets being fired to Israel*
*The start of milatry opartion from the IDF in Gaza strip while hundreds of missiles fall daily on Israel from Gaza strip*
So tell me again, how are we the ones to blame for this starting?
Lemme ask you, where did I blame Israel for starting it? Both sides had a role in starting this mess.
Never said I support Putin, and I agree that if he had the opportunity, he'd destroy his 'Gaza strip' (imo it's Ukraine atm). I just said that Russia would possibly be more helpful in creating an end to the conflict than the US, due to America's blatant bias towards Israel.
Hun, bring up background info ALL you want, that doesn't justify the GENOCIDE being performed by Israel against Palestinians right now. Continue to ignore the fact that Israel is acting like Germany in WW1 against Belgium, and it's military offensive against Gaza is similar to a Nazi Blitzkrieg. Let that comparison sink in, sis. I'm assuming it's "okay" in your eyes because they're "Jewish hating" Muslims? A mess. Israelis need to own up to their country's ******** and stop deflecting the blame.
they shouting on civilians! they don't care about babies in Israel. Thanks gods Israel do cares about his people, if no iron dome we had more people who died.
Do y'all care about Palestinian babies?
Palestinian civilians?
I see no pity for them. Only neglect and deep hatred.
No, you are Anti-Semitic if you say that you want all Jews to be impaled, you want them to burn in hell and you wish Hitler would finish his job or come back. ALL of which I read in this thread or similar threads made here on this conflict.
There was literally one person who made any comment even remotely close to this and I don't think it was this thread. People called him/her out for it too.
Lemme ask you, where did I blame Israel for starting it? Both sides had a role in starting this mess.
Never said I support Putin, and I agree that if he had the opportunity, he'd destroy his 'Gaza strip' (imo it's Ukraine atm). I just said that Russia would possibly be more helpful in creating an end to the conflict than the US, due to America's blatant bias towards Israel.
Hun, bring up background info ALL you want, that doesn't justify the GENOCIDE being performed by Israel against Palestinians right now. Continue to ignore the fact that Israel is acting like Germany in WW1 against Belgium, and it's military offensive against Gaza is similar to a Nazi Blitzkrieg. Let that comparison sink in, sis. I'm assuming it's "okay" in your eyes because they're "Jewish hating" Muslims? A mess. Israelis need to own up to their country's ******** and stop deflecting the blame.
My apologie, I read it wrong.. It's been a long day after work.
As for the last part, when did I EVER say it's okay? You are talking about things you didn't say yet, here you are saying things I never said?!
Now, since everyone over here are into asking questions, here is one for you.
What do you expect Israel to do?
Lets say you are the prime minister of Israel right now, how do you deal with it?
Do you expecting Israel to sit down while it's under attack?Do you expect Israel to get into Gaza and hand pick terroris? And F*** Genocide use! What Putin would have done to "his Gaza strip" is genocide. You really think Isreal doesn't have the power to whip down Gaza strip?! If we are so into doing a genocide and don't care about what the world thing or about innocent people dying why haven't we just bombed the entire strip to pieces when this just started?Why bother warning people to get out of their houses before an attack, sending warnings and what not?Huh?
I see no pity for them. Only neglect and deep hatred.
No, you're right, we are cold and heartless people.
So cold, so cold we send warnings to civilians to GTFO cuz' we're gonna attack that area cuz' there are terrorist over there or there were missiles fired from that place.
Which is something I'm sure you can find another example for in other wars, where a country has done that, letting the enemy know where they're gonna attack so innoncent people could escape.
I mean, it's so common for countries in war to do so. And it's so uncommon to have deaths in war.
We are evil, we want nothing other than the whole Gaza strip dead, that's why we haven't bombed it and whiped it out.. Or wait a min'...
I see no pity for them. Only neglect and deep hatred.
Yes I'm human I have feelings, innocent people are not our enemy. I wish they could say the same about us, but the're still people who supporting Hamas who using them as human shields!
I have nothing about arabs/muslims ect. In my class (on my college) there is Arabs students who are my friends. Arabs and others who are Israel's civilians have the same rights as any other civilian! Muslims woman have rights here as in any other democratic state!
I wish we could solve it only with words! but Hamas doesn't want it! for 14 years they're throwing rockets to south of israel! For 14 years!
I care about my little brother who born to this reality, can't live normal life. Imagine you're sleeping and 2:30 am there is siren! you can't go to shopping without being afraid that you'll hear siren and you will have no place to cover yourself.