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Discussion: MTV: Katy goes all ARTPOP on us
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
Wait so this is Monster logic
"Gaga didn't copy Madonna. She was simply inspired and liked the look"
However, Katy uses an outfit that looks like something Gaga would wear and suddenly it's
"Of course Katy copies Gaga. Gaga is a legend."
So when it's Gaga it's being inspired and homage, but when it's not Gaga then it's copying Never change monsters.
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Except this thread is about an MTV article in which they insinuated Katy copied Gaga. We're just co-signing. We didn't write the article nor did we write the ones from Billboard, Fuse, or Buzzfeed.
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
Wait so this is Monster logic
"Gaga didn't copy Madonna. She was simply inspired and liked the look"
However, Katy uses an outfit that looks like something Gaga would wear and suddenly it's
"Of course Katy copies Gaga. Gaga is a legend."
So when it's Gaga it's being inspired and homage, but when it's not Gaga then it's copying Never change monsters.
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
Wait so this is Monster logic
"Gaga didn't copy Madonna. She was simply inspired and liked the look"
However, Katy uses an outfit that looks like something Gaga would wear and suddenly it's
"Of course Katy copies Gaga. Gaga is a legend."
So when it's Gaga it's being inspired and homage, but when it's not Gaga then it's copying Never change monsters.
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We admitted Gaga was inspired by Madonna though? Y'all are the ones having trouble admitted who is inspired by who here
Never change Kats
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Originally posted by ToxicKat
Lmao at the monsters thinking she was inspired when it's most likely that she's mocking her along with the rumors making fun of Mariah.
According to that insider, the video will hand everyone talking and I already know why.
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So the video's going to be her mocking her peers? Tragic. What a secret mean pop girl
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Wow at the Katy Kats still trying to discredit any sort of influence when numerous publications have written about it.
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Originally posted by Repo
You claimed that right here:
Yeah, Gaga isn't the queen of pop, but she's still higher up on the hierarchy than Katy. Gaga can claim to have influenced at least one singer (Katy). Who has Katy influenced? Impact means far more than sales.
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Ugh that gif is getting so annoying. And just because I used a Katy Perry lyric to saying "that was then and this is now" doesn't mean I explicitly said "Katy Perry is the new Queen of Pop." I can understand how you interpreted that, but all I was doing was trying to bring humour to the thread by integrating song lyrics into the discussion, hence why I used a gif from 'Part of Me' because that's what song the lyrics I used are from.
And again, impact is so subjective. You people literally cherry pick what is impact and what isn't so it will work in your favour.
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
Wait so this is Monster logic
"Gaga didn't copy Madonna. She was simply inspired and liked the look"
However, Katy uses an outfit that looks like something Gaga would wear and suddenly it's
"Of course Katy copies Gaga. Gaga is a legend."
So when it's Gaga it's being inspired and homage, but when it's not Gaga then it's copying Never change monsters.
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No, my logic is:
1. Gaga openly admitted to being inspired by Madonna, therefore she takes after her in looks, persona, and music. She completely owns up to this and does not pretend that it's anything different than what it is.
2. Katy has repeatedly shaded Gaga and says negative things about Gaga and her music.
3. Katy is seen using very similar performance tactics/costumes as Gaga, on a repeated basis, shortly after Gaga has used them. She gives Gaga zero credit.
4. Katy has also come under lots of fire for songs seeming very similar to those by other artists (Roar-Brave, for example). Once again, zero credit is given.
5. Katy most likely does copy artists musical styles/looks without owning up to them, seeing as this is a repeat issue and not a one-and-done deal that she has publicly owned up to.
If it's any consolation, I blame Katy's producers more than I blame Katy
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Originally posted by KatyLegendperry
I don't see how this is "art pop", its just a patterned dress with matching shoes and a weird wig
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Anything unusual Katy does is a Gaga rip off according go the Monsters
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Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e
wait I don't even get the hoopla in here.
This has nothing to do with Gaga.. The only person Katy borrowed from was that artist known for those colorful blocks. LIke... why are there 30 pages.
MTV only made the comparison b/c Lady Gaga's whole shtick was combining art with pop.
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Exactly this. People are creating a stanwar because they love the drama. What happened to #StopTheDrama #StartTheMusic?
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Originally posted by renanmarcal
“But that was then, and this is now”
Now look at her
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I'm looking, sis. And what I'm seeing is that Gaga has as of date sold 15 million more albums than Katy.
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Originally posted by Repo
No, my logic is:
1. Gaga openly admitted to being inspired by Madonna, therefore she takes after her in looks, persona, and music. She completely owns up to this and does not pretend that it's anything different than what it is.
2. Katy has repeatedly shaded Gaga and says negative things about Gaga and her music.
3. Katy is seen using very similar performance tactics/costumes as Gaga, on a repeated basis, shortly after Gaga has used them. She gives Gaga zero credit.
4. Katy has also come under lots of fire for songs seeming very similar to those by other artists (Roar-Brave, for example). Once again, zero credit is given.
5. Katy most likely does copy artists musical styles/looks without owning up to them, seeing as this is a repeat issue and not a one-and-done deal that she has publicly owned up to.
If it's any consolation, I blame Katy's producers more than I blame Katy
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I agree with all these points!
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Originally posted by renanmarcal
“But that was then, and this is now”
Now look at her
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Yeah, it's really amazing how even Gaga's FLOP era is selling barely any less than an album considered a HUGE success for Katyt! Really says something about the two artists' popularity!
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Originally posted by Lazerbeamz
Anything unusual Katy does is a Gaga rip off according go the Monsters
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MTV is saying this not us, try again
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Originally posted by Rivington Reject
Nope! You actually have it backwards. When Gaga homages someone, it's apparently copying.
Stop trying to turn the double standard towards Katy because if one didn't exist against Gaga, this thread and SYG wouldn't be full of butthurt people trying to discredit Gaga.
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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
But most people have use the word "impact" and "inspire". Just because the thread is on page 30, doesn't mean you can go around distorting facts.
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You guys are so... Let me not get warning points over this dumb thread.
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
MESS at you thinking people tuned in for Gaga when EVERYONE tuned in for Miley last year. She was who everyone was talking about
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yeah.. AFTER the show. As said before and already proven in this thread, people didn't know ****
that Miley was going to do that on the award show. So that argument is already invalid.
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The fact MTV suddenly becomes a big thing tho... was is that important/relevant when they snubbed Gaga in their ceremonies lately?
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Originally posted by Rihinvention
Ugh that gif is getting so annoying. And just because I used a Katy Perry lyric to saying "that was then and this is now" doesn't mean I explicitly said "Katy Perry is the new Queen of Pop." I can understand how you interpreted that, but all I was doing was trying to bring humour to the thread by integrating song lyrics into the discussion, hence why I used a gif from 'Part of Me' because that's what song the lyrics I used are from.
And again, impact is so subjective. You people literally cherry pick what is impact and what isn't so it will work in your favour.
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Not overly familiar with Katy's lyrics (especially for Part of me) Lol. Fair enough.
The only thing that is debateable is what impact encompasses. Generally speaking, inspiring other singers qualifies as impact. Madonna has factually inspired Lady Gaga. That's not a debate. You can see in her music and her public persona that she was inspired by Madonna and not... say... Debbie Gibson.
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PRISM is become more and more similar to the BTW era as the days go on but with a smaller tour and less album sales of course
Edit: Oh and with worse music, videos and creativity
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Originally posted by Squall
The fact MTV suddenly becomes a big thing tho... was is that important/relevant when they snubbed Gaga in their ceremonies lately?
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Gaga's one of the most awarded MTV artists...so..
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kkamjong
Wait so this is Monster logic
"Gaga didn't copy Madonna. She was simply inspired and liked the look"
However, Katy uses an outfit that looks like something Gaga would wear and suddenly it's
"Of course Katy copies Gaga. Gaga is a legend."
So when it's Gaga it's being inspired and homage, but when it's not Gaga then it's copying Never change monsters.
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Its not even something Gaga has worn but looks like something she might wear
its pretty pathetic
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Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e
wait I don't even get the hoopla in here.
This has nothing to do with Gaga.. The only person Katy borrowed from was that artist known for those colorful blocks. LIke... why are there 30 pages.
MTV only made the comparison b/c Lady Gaga's whole shtick was combining art with pop.
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The Monsters are absolutely LIVID after Katy bagged dragged and buried Gaga in Rolling Stone
and are merely (misguidedly) using this as an outlet
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