Now 1130 Palestinian deaths, 55 Israeli deaths (53 being soldiers)
Gaza's only power plant has been knocked out
Yeah, they are now bombing middle and south Gaza, after the Israeli are finished, the West can build it up again and at the same time they will spend their big money on Israel and Nethanjahu and his bunch of criminals will build further villages on Palestinian ground for their extremist right wing farmes and then it starts again.
The Israeli people have to stand up against their Goverment but when I read what our friends from Israel here have to say then I have some doubts that this will ever happen.
Hell, 20 years ago so many Israelian people branded Jitzchak Rabin as a Nazi, with that huge money from the west each year, they (many, not all) will always kill the peace maker, sad but true.
Oh please, so they were using UNITED NATIONS SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS? So why no one from the UN workers there say anything? gurl gtfo. If they used schools and hospitals like you say they wouldve been all empty, that if they use, which they dont. And so the thousands houses that were destroyed by Israel ALL were hiding weapons and launchers? Or the 50 mosques? Your excuse is a stale just like your stale lie that Hamas use Palestinians as human shield while the COMPLETE opposite is true (the human shield thingy). Israel destroyed countless houses for absolute no reason, they just call and say "hey were bombing your house" "why?" No answer. Many reporters in Gaza said that thry saw no proof of the Israeli claims. So cut the ********.
Originally posted by Yuli Novak, former Israeli air force officer
I believed with all my heart that we were doing what needed to be done. If there were casualties, they were a necessary evil. If there were mistakes, they would be investigated.
Things have changed, and now I can no longer have that certainty. In 2002 the dropping of a one-tonne bomb on a home resulting in civilian deaths was the exception. The IDF eventually acknowledged that the assault on Shehadeh’s house had been wrong. They deemed it a failure in intelligence and said that, had they known there were civilians in the home, they would not have carried out the operation.
Seven years later, during Operation Cast Lead, there was widespread dropping of bombs over densely populated areas in the Gaza Strip. Today, in Operation Protective Edge, the air force boasts of having released over 100 one-tonne bombs on Gaza. What was once the exception is now the policy.
This is how it goes today. We notify the inhabitant about the imminent destruction of a house minutes before a bomb drops (via text messages, or by dropping a smaller bomb on the house as a warning). That is enough to turn it into a legitimate target for an air strike. In the past two weeks dozens of civilians have been killed in such strikes.
Homes of Hamas members have become legitimate targets, regardless of the number of people within their walls. Unlike in 2002, no one bothers to justify or make excuses.
What’s worse is that almost no one protests. Entire families are erased in a second, and the Israeli public remains indifferent. From year to year, from one military operation to another, our moral red lines are stretching further away. Where will they be in the next operation? Where will they be 10 years from now?
I know how hard it is to ask questions during times of conflict as a soldier. The information that the officers get in real time is always partial. That’s why the responsibility for drawing the red lines, and alerting when we cross it, lies with the public. A clear, loud voice that says that bombing a house with civilians in it is immoral must be heard. These killings cannot be accepted without question. Public silence in the face of such actions – inside and outside of Israel – is consent by default, and acceptance of an unacceptable price.
Good non-bias intro for everyone to help understand
Im having trouble understanding the topic still.
From what i gathered from the video, the Palestinians are basically the victims in this? I usually see posts people say the should stop acting like the ''victims'' ..
Sorry im pretty uneducated on this subject, im just trying to get a better understanding.
Hamas are great victims aren't they. They conveniently forget about the cease fires they have broken, bombs they have planted and missiles they have fired, why? Because Hamas won't let reporters in to the areas where their missiles are that's why. Israel will so all you ever see in TV are the Israeli guns and missiles firing and the 'victims' of these 'atrocities'.
Israel has every right to protect itself after yet another ceasefire was broken yestarday.
Also yesterday a Hamas terror group managed to use one of their tunnels to attack a kibbutz, with the intention of killing civilians... 5 Israeli soldiers died protecting families.
People here can't undestand against who israel is fighting!
This is son of one of the leaders of Hamas, he'll tell you.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KakxXN5Z-XI
quote: “Hamas does not care about the lives of Palestinians, or the lives of Israelis, or Americans; they don’t care about their own lives” Yousef said.
“They consider dying for their ideology a way of worship."
“Hamas is not seeking coexistence and compromise; Hamas is seeking conquest,” he added.
“The destruction of the state of Israel is not the Hamas final destination.”
Hamas, Yousef asserted, Hamas wants to build an Islamic state “on the rubble of every other civilization.”
Mosab Hassan Yousef - the son of Hamas - during an interview with CNN, July 2014.
From what i gathered from the video, the Palestinians are basically the victims in this? I usually see posts people say the should stop acting like the ''victims'' ..
Sorry im pretty uneducated on this subject, im just trying to get a better understanding.
Now 1130 Palestinian deaths, 55 Israeli deaths (53 being soldiers)
Gaza's only power plant has been knocked out
I am beyond disgusted
I pray the IDF and anyone in support of them never know peace. I pray they smell and taste the the blood of the thousands of innocent lives they took (especially the women and children) all the days of their miserable lives.
I will take solace in the fact that God will one day judge these animals.
Idk,when I saw it in the news I felt bad, but when I remembered that Israel bombed the **** of Gaza and still bombing the whole strip and massacring hundreds of people and the death toll is high in the sky with 1063 and still counting mostly civilians with many of them being babies and children their heads being completely bombed and 6000 injuries while on the Israeli side the damage isnt even a fraction of the damage done to the Gaza strip by Israel you feel less sympathy, FAR less sympathy than we feel it for Gaza, yes we feel bad for them and feel sympathy, but when you compare......
For us, Palestinians are the people who actually defend themselves. And that 1 to 10 thingy like gurl stop, like yeah many missiles were shot, but it isnt enough AT ALL to cause such numbers of deaths like in Gaza, not even if all of the missiles hit Israeli civilians, it wouldnt rise to those numbers.
Are you for real? 120 missiles a day.
If that number would hit targets like Hamas wanted it, 1 day would be enough to get the dead toll to half of the people that died in Gaza so far.
But it's not numbers, those are human beings and the fact that no one cares that Hamas is trying to kill us, while condemning Israel on the same thing, with the small difference that Israel did so while Hamas miss most of the time is pure two face ideology.
You don't here about the suicide boomer who got stopped by a soldier with a car filled with gaz tanks in the trunk, gaz tanks that got bullets of iron to make more damage.
You don't hear about all the dozen and hundred of terroris who caught trying to invade Israel in order to kill civilians.
Not sure if the news bother to mention all the tunnels going under most of Gaza strip, tunnels who were dig by terroris in order to make an "Israelie 9/11".
I guess Palestinian people are so innocent that they spend a hell lot of time to dig those hole while Israel wasn't doing anything to them. And maybe those are just Hamas people who did it but I'm pretty sure Palestinian people know what's going on over there.
And the irony in all of this? Some of this tunnels, built in order to hurt Israel and it's civilians, where built with UNRWA equipment, equipment that is supposed to be for the Palestinian people to develop, to build themselfs up. Guess they got better things to do with those.
I'm rather ignorant to the BACKGROUND of this conflict (pre-existing tensions, etc. I watched that non-biased info video which helped) but it seems that Israelis have a concept that if you're not 100% pro-Israel you're an anti-Semitic Nazi?
I'm rather ignorant to the BACKGROUND of this conflict (pre-existing tensions, etc. I watched that non-biased info video which helped) but it seems that Israelis have a concept that if you're not 100% pro-Israel you're an anti-Semitic Nazi?
If that number would hit targets like Hamas wanted it, 1 day would be enough to get the dead toll to half of the people that died in Gaza so far.
But it's not numbers, those are human beings and the fact that no one cares that Hamas is trying to kill us, while condemning Israel on the same thing, with the small difference that Israel did so while Hamas miss most of the time is pure two face ideology.
You don't here about the suicide boomer who got stopped by a soldier with a car filled with gaz tanks in the trunk, gaz tanks that got bullets of iron to make more damage.
You don't hear about all the dozen and hundred of terroris who caught trying to invade Israel in order to kill civilians.
Not sure if the news bother to mention all the tunnels going under most of Gaza strip, tunnels who were dig by terroris in order to make an "Israelie 9/11".
I guess Palestinian people are so innocent that they spend a hell lot of time to dig those hole while Israel wasn't doing anything to them. And maybe those are just Hamas people who did it but I'm pretty sure Palestinian people know what's going on over there.
And the irony in all of this? Some of this tunnels, built in order to hurt Israel and it's civilians, where built with UNRWA equipment, equipment that is supposed to be for the Palestinian people to develop, to build themselfs up. Guess they got better things to do with those.
Maybe they would finally be satisfied if Israelis were being killed? I don't get their point in all honesty, stop comparing casualties. What matters is that hundreds of missiles are being fired into Israel as well, but most of them don't care about that.
I'm rather ignorant to the BACKGROUND of this conflict (pre-existing tensions, etc. I watched that non-biased info video which helped) but it seems that Israelis have a concept that if you're not 100% pro-Israel you're an anti-Semitic Nazi?
No, you are Anti-Semitic if you say that you want all Jews to be impaled, you want them to burn in hell and you wish Hitler would finish his job or come back. ALL of which I read in this thread or similar threads made here on this conflict.
I'm rather ignorant to the BACKGROUND of this conflict (pre-existing tensions, etc. I watched that non-biased info video which helped) but it seems that Israelis have a concept that if you're not 100% pro-Israel you're an anti-Semitic Nazi?
Not 100% true. Maybe some do but if you read the comments on this thread you'll see why.
I don't care when people judge my country, I judge my country as well.
But you can't judge one side and give the other side full support no matter what, that's called hypocrisy. And that's exactly what people in this thread are doing becuase of probably one thing and only, and it's hate. Doesn't matter if it's hate of jews or hate for Israel.
A discussion is a converstion between two or more people that understand that there are two side to a coin, that listen and not ignore what makes their ideolgy a bit more complicated. And that's not happening over here.
No, you are Anti-Semitic if you say that you want all Jews to be impaled, you want them to burn in hell and you wish Hitler would finish his job or come back. ALL of which I read in this thread or similar threads made here on this conflict.
Nnnn sis where have you seen the stuff I bolded? I've been following the thread(s) on ATRL regarding this issue and NEVER have I seen pro-Nazi/anti-Jew slander like that.....
