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Discussion: What's your stance on...? #46: Organ Donation
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
Simple.
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And I suppose all this evidence and dinosaur bones God put here to 'test faith'? 
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
I mean no offence to anyone's beliefs BUT...how could you not believe in Evolutionary Theory?
It is pretty much proven. Just try and explain the history of the earth without it, I dare you.
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Science cannot prove everything. And while I do agree with this theory, some things have not been explained by this theory. And until it's concrete, it will always remain a theory and not a law
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
And I suppose all this evidence and dinosaur bones God put here to 'test faith'? |
Why Not?
You can't argue with a Supernatural Force.
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Originally posted by RatedGaga
Science cannot prove everything. And while I do agree with this theory, some things have not been explained by this theory. And until it's concrete, it will always remain a theory and not a law
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I know it isn't concrete, my point is we obviously weren't just plopped down here by some god, God may have been the catalyst to evolution but anyone who denies evolutionary theory altogether...they tend to sound brainwashed.
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
I know it isn't concrete, my point is we obviously weren't just plopped down here by some god, God may have been the catalyst to evolution but anyone who denies evolutionary theory altogether...they tend to sound brainwashed.
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Well who is to say that god didn't make similar creatures on earth that happen to be very similar in characteristics
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
Why Not?
You can't argue with a Supernatural Force. |
Smite me oh mighty smiter. I'll argue all I please.
(hoping yall get the reference)
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With the way some people act, it wouldn't suprise me if we evolved from reactive monkeys/apes.
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
Smite me oh mighty smiter. I'll argue all I please.
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I didn't get the reference lol
EDIT : You missed yesterday's topic...we at least when I came 
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Originally posted by RatedGaga
Well who is to say that god didn't make similar creatures on earth that happen to be very similar in characteristics
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Well according to Christian beliefs the world
- Is only several thousand years old
- Humans came from 2 people (hello incest)
- there was a giant flood that destroyed the earth for some amount of time
Now scientific evidence contradicts all of that...so....you can't really pick and choose which bits you want to believe.
Plus there are 'links' amongst different species, like our link with apes. Your theory also doesn't explain why some animals, and even humans, change physically and even genetically.
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
I know it isn't concrete, my point is we obviously weren't just plopped down here by some god, God may have been the catalyst to evolution but anyone who denies evolutionary theory altogether...they tend to sound brainwashed.
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I am not brainwashed 
Just saying you could easily argue against your point by saying God created everything... and initiated everything.  I believe that slight evolution has occurred but I do not believe we crossed over from apes. We started out as homo guantengenis (or something like that) and evolved into our present form of Homo Sapiens which are Anatomically modern humans.
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Originally posted by Jewfro
Oh, and evolutionary theory, from what I understand of it, says humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor, not that humans evolved from apes. There's a difference.
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Thank you for a moment here I lost faith 
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
I mean no offence to anyone's beliefs BUT...how could you not believe in Evolutionary Theory?
It is pretty much proven. Just try and explain the history of the earth without it, I dare you.
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Exactly, it's a proven fact like 2+2=4.
And about the religion clash, i don't think there need to be one, most of the things written in the bible are metaphors anyway, so I don't see how one theory exclude/invalide the other.
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
Well according to Christian beliefs the world
- Is only several thousand years old
- Humans came from 2 people (hello incest)
- there was a giant flood that destroyed the earth for some amount of time
Now scientific evidence contradicts all of that...so....you can't really pick and choose which bits you want to believe.
Plus there are 'links' amongst different species, like our link with apes. Your theory also doesn't explain why some animals, and even humans, change physically and even genetically.
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Well Agnosticism says otherwise...
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
I am not brainwashed
Just saying you could easily argue against your point by saying God created everything... and initiated everything. I believe that slight evolution has occurred but I do not believe we crossed over from apes. We started out as homo guantengenis (or something like that) and evolved into our present form of Homo Sapiens which Anatomically modern humans. |
We are all actually descended from a couple of different..I don't know the word for them collectively, let's just say ancestors. It is no longer believed that 'human' life only originated in Africa, Europeans are supposedly mixed with another species and seeing as how 95% of Americans are descended from European colonisers, yall aren't pure either.
Your god created everything theory doesn't cover that.
In my opinion anyone who refutes evidence by saying 'you have to have faith' should be put in a gaint sack and poked with a sharp stick until they see sense. I am not altogether against God, I believe there must be some greater power, but the bible is a glorified bedtime story IMO. Jesus was a great man but I don't think he was the son of god.
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Originally posted by RatedGaga
Well Agnosticism says otherwise...
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I think you are a little confused....
Agnosticism: a religious orientation of doubt; a denial of ultimate knowledge of the existence of God; "agnosticism holds that you can neither prove nor disprove God's existence"
So in actual fact, that supports nothing you or I have said.
I am agnostic, don't use words if you don't know what they mean. I've never said I don't believe in God.
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Originally posted by BnPac
Thank you for a moment here I lost faith
Exactly, it's a proven fact like 2+2=4.
And about the religion clash, i don't think there need to be one, most of the things written in the bible are metaphors anyway, so I don't see how one theory exclude/invalide the other. |
Thank you! Sadly most Christians do not see it like that,
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
We are all actually descended from a couple of different..I don't know the word for them collectively, let's just say ancestors. It is no longer believed that 'human' life only originated in Africa, Europeans are supposedly mixed with another species and seeing as how 95% of Americans are descended from European colonisers, yall aren't pure either.
Your god created everything theory doesn't cover that.
In my opinion anyone who refutes evidence by saying 'you have to have faith' should be put in a gaint sack and poked with a sharp stick until they see sense. I am not altogether against God, I believe there must be some greater power, but the bible is a glorified bedtime story IMO. Jesus was a great man but I don't think he was the son of god.
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I will not be put into a giant sack
ok....... there is no response to this at all. There is no possible further point to make.
And about the first paragraph..... WHAT???
Please clarify your point. I need to be poked with a stick harder apparently...
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
I think you are a little confused....
Agnosticism: a religious orientation of doubt; a denial of ultimate knowledge of the existence of God; "agnosticism holds that you can neither prove nor disprove God's existence"
So in actual fact, that supports nothing you or I have said.
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Sorry I was thinking of Deism, which is the belief of a god, but not any specific form of organized religion
So all of what the Bible and Christianity says is irrelevant because it is unorganized religion, and they do believe in a god. So as I will state again, who is to say that god did not make similar looking creatures
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
I will not be put into a giant sack
ok....... there is no response to this at all. There is no possible further point to make.
And about the first paragraph..... WHAT???
Please clarify your point. I need to be poked with a stick harder apparently... |
The point is, we actually couldn't have come from 'Adam & Eve' if we are descended from 2 different...sub-species of human.
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
The point is, we actually couldn't have come from 'Adam & Eve' if we are descended from 2 different...sub-species of human.
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Well, that's what you believe, but that doesn't have to be the truth
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Originally posted by RatedGaga
Well, that's what you believe, but that doesn't have to be the truth
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No offence, but do you know what the word evidence means? 
People will always disagree but I'll take solid, visible science over an unseen, unreliable entity any day.
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