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News: Girl 6, taken from her family because she is Native American
Member Since: 8/24/2008
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bitch 1.5%?
Bitch I'm 1.4%
omg I'm Pocahontas.
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Member Since: 6/26/2010
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Only in America 'preserving culture :cheese' is more important than giving a life of quality to a child smh
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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This is really ****ed up and stupid. ****ing bureaucracy.
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Member Since: 2/16/2012
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Originally posted by Allie
Lol @ you completely ignoring the other half my post that condemns the government's actions. Maybe you should have some sense.
If she were placed in a Native foster household from the very start, this wouldn't be an issue. You're obviously not from the US since you seem pretty ignorant of the fact that the government waged genocide on Native Americans, and as a result, they are dying out. Keep quiet.
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I was addressing the absurd notion that a child " should be placed with Native families to avoid white-washing and preserve their cultural identity" - the first part of your post did not contain this assertion.
And no, I'm not from the US. However, I think you'll find many Europeans are more aware of the plight of Native Americans than Americans are. 
My point is, Native American children in need of fostering should have the best possible care made available to them, as any other child (hopefully) would. If a non-Native family can provide that care better than a Native family, then the child should be placed in their care, regardless of whether it helps "preserve their cultural identity".
The welfare of the child is by far the most important thing to consider, more important than any politics. 
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EXCLUSIVE - 'Please do the right thing and send our daughter home': Heartbroken white foster parents of girl, six, seized for being 1/64th Native American plead with new 'family' to return her to the only home she's ever known
- Lexi, six, was taken from Summer and Rusty Page by court order and is being handed to new foster parents in Utah
- The Pages are the only parents she has ever known and they tell Daily Mail Online today how their other children are distraught by losing their sister
- Court ruled the Choctaw Nation should decide how best she is brought up and they have placed her with relative of her father
- Bio-father is serial criminal who denied he was of Native American heritage but court has ruled Lexi's Indian blood makes her subject to tribal law
- Rusty Page tells how Lexi said to him: 'Daddy, you are Superman, don't let them take me away.'
- The Pages' biological siblings are distraught at loss of their sibling and are sleeping on the floor of her room, their parents say
Lost: Summer and Rusty Page tell Daily Mail Online they are heartbroken and angry at the loss of their daughter, who they have fostered since before she was two, making her the only parents she can remember.
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The parents whose foster daughter was torn away from them because she was 1/64th native American, have issued a heart-rending plea to her new foster family to be the little girl's 'hero' and send her back to 'mommy and daddy'.
Rusty and Summer Page, who have looked after Lexi, six, as their own daughter since she was two, have urged the family she has been placed with in Utah to do the right thing by Lexi and send her home
Lexi was taken from the Page family after a lengthy legal battle with the Choctaw nation who fought to place little Lexi with distant relatives of her biological father under the Indian Child Welfare Act (ICWA) which grants tribes jurisdiction over cases involving children with native blood.
Visibly traumatized Lexi was ripped from her father's arms in emotional scenes outside the Page's home in Santa Clarita, California on Sunday by social workers and her appointed attorney, who the family have branded 'evil incarnate'.
The family has now launched a Save Lexi campaign to bring the little girl home – and made an emotional plea for Lexi's return.
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Biological father: Jay Ellerforbes lost custody of Lexi and attempts to reunite them were unsuccessful. But because his mother disclosed that he was an enrolled member of the Choctaw Nation, the Pages were subject to tribal law, and were refused the right to adopt
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The Page family also discussed their concerns over the handling of the case.
They say that the Indian unit of the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services (DCFS) have been guilty of deception.
In particular, they highlighted how foster mom Summer, 33, has native blood as a descendant of the Iroquois tribe.
But, they said, this information was never passed on by workers at the DCFS.
The family attempted to adopt Lexi, who has lived with them since December 2011, when her reunification efforts with her father Jay Ellerforbes, a career criminal with drug problems ended.
However their request was denied by DCFS, which cited the ICWA law.
The Pages say the department's decision ignored the fact that Summer is herself of Native American heritage, and had the support of a tribe in their adoption application.
Rusty said: 'Summer's clan mother reported her native American heritage to the DCFS with an official letter saying that their tribe is supportive of our family adopting a native American child and guaranteeing that under their guidance they'll ensure she's brought up in her culture and the proud heritage of the Iroquois Indians.
'That was just dismissed. We sent that to the DCFS social worker in the Indian unit as we were told we couldn't go directly to the Choctaw tribe.
'The social worker replied saying, "Thank you I'll forward that to the tribe" but in court the tribe said they never received any of that information and if had they received it they might have made a different determination.'
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Family: Lexi, whose identity is being protected by Daily Mail Online, with her foster parents Rusty (left) and Summer (right, holding theri youngest child Zoe) and (from left) older brother Caleb and sister Maddie
Lost hope: The Page children (from left Maddie, Caleb, Lexi and Zoe). 'Our eldest was completely inconsolable - she was shaking and hyperventilating and screaming at the top of her lungs,' Summer Page said
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The family said the case had been miss-managed from the beginning with many of the things they reported to social workers – such as how 'hysterically' upset Lexi was before, during and after court-ordered visits with the Utah family - never being passed on to the courts or to the Choctaw tribe.
The family is also angry about the 'barbaric' way in which Lexi was taken from them, after a judge rejected their plea that a transition plan be put in place to gently ease the six-year-old into her new family.
Instead the family was told late on Friday night that Lexi would be taken on Sunday morning – giving them no time to lodge an emergency appeal with the courts - and ordered not to tell Lexi anything.
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Empty bedroom: The Pages in the room which was Lexi's and where her siblings have slept on the floor since she was taken
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The law was created in 1978 to prevent the break-up of native American homes.
However the Pages claim it has been completely misapplied in Lexi's case, as she has never been on a reservation and has no connection to the tribe.
They also question the decision to move her from a stable loving home she has lived in since she was a baby, which is also close to siblings on her mother's side - none of whom live with the mother - instead with to the second-step cousins of her father in a different state.
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'Not only is ICWA being miss-applied they are taking a child from a native American home here to a non-native, non-blood related home in Utah.
'You walk into the Edelman children's courthouse in LA under every door there is a plaque that says, 'If you think you may have native American blood you should talk to your attorney.'
'Even if you aren't sure they will investigate for you so you can play that card. Do you think that's what the law was ever intended for?
'When we're done with this case and if the court rules that's not the standard, I'll be the first to march down to that courthouse and ply those things off the wall and throw them in the trash.
'I want the rest of the world to look on to America and say, "How dare you have a law that's so racist when you say all men are created equal under God".
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'What's so tragic is that most of the foster agencies are now going to refuse to take a Native American child after this - and there are no Native American foster homes in LA so what will happen to those kids?'
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz43rXxUAFC
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Allie
Lol, I'm literally studying this right now in a history class about colonialism.
FACT: The Californian missions turned Indians into virtual slaves, exhausting and abusing over 60,000 of them to death.
FACT: The government paid bounty hunters to murder Indians and collect the scalps as proof.
FACT: The American government seized thousands of Native children and put them into permanent boarding schools where they were forced to forget their Native language, practice Christianity, integrate into the lower parts of white society, and presumably breed their ethnicity out.
FACT: You're forgetting that the Trail of Tears, Wounded Knee, and American Indian Wars existed.
These are all FACTS, I'm sorry that your white guilt is hindering you from processing the truth.
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You're not the only one who goes to history class  I don't really know why you're debating this with me since it has no relevancy to this particular news story anyway. Yes those are FACTS but you listing 4 things you probably found in your text book still doesn't classify it as genocide. Nobody is saying there weren't horrible atrocities committed against the Natives, but you literally just compiled four "facts" that were hundreds of years apart from each other and occurred under different governments. Genocide has a very specific definition. The settlers who came to America did not seek the systematic killing of the entire native race, they just wanted the land. This doesn't make their actions any less horrible but it is not genocide. And even then what does this have to do with this particular girl. She is 98.5 percent non Native, so why the f*** should she have been put with Native foster parents in the first place? On top of the fact that another poster detailed how many of these foster parents cannot provide high quality of life. Get your head out of you a** and stop being so bitter about events that occurred before any of us even existed.
Lmao and don't worry I don't feel guilty about anything 
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1.5%?
I really hope they can get the girl back.
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Member Since: 4/3/2014
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So being related to her holds no bearing in the matter? Honestly I could not care less about culture if it came down to it. A caring and loving family beats all of that. This surprisingly came off a bit...racist. People are people.
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Member Since: 11/18/2008
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Omg
The pics  I don't get it just because of that? Wtf
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Member Since: 4/3/2014
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nnnnnn 1.5% and that's it, she has to join a tribe? LMFAOOOOOOOO WOW. And her 98.5%? Let's all just ignore that? LMAO who is this judge? Strip him of his duties tbh.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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These people must be joking. A lot of white people has some small share of native blood, this doesn't make them natives though.
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Member Since: 6/30/2011
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Originally posted by KyIe
The settlers who came to America did not seek the systematic killing of the entire native race, they just wanted the land.
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They "just wanted the land!!!" But used mass murder to achieve this, thanks for proving my point.
I'm not bitter. All I did was post a bunch of FACTS that triggered you into writing an expletive-ridden rant.
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Member Since: 11/27/2008
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WAIT! This is happening in the city I live in. 
There are KEEP LEXI HOME posters over by my bus stop
Now it all makes sense
This is just a sad situation all around.
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Member Since: 12/3/2010
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Huh? How is this even allowed?
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Wtf? That's so ****ed up
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Member Since: 4/14/2011
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Why does it matter the race of the foster parents? This is so sad
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Member Since: 4/14/2011
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Originally posted by KyIe
You're not the only one who goes to history class I don't really know why you're debating this with me since it has no relevancy to this particular news story anyway. Yes those are FACTS but you listing 4 things you probably found in your text book still doesn't classify it as genocide. Nobody is saying there weren't horrible atrocities committed against the Natives, but you literally just compiled four "facts" that were hundreds of years apart from each other and occurred under different governments. Genocide has a very specific definition. The settlers who came to America did not seek the systematic killing of the entire native race, they just wanted the land. This doesn't make their actions any less horrible but it is not genocide. And even then what does this have to do with this particular girl. She is 98.5 percent non Native, so why the f*** should she have been put with Native foster parents in the first place? On top of the fact that another poster detailed how many of these foster parents cannot provide high quality of life. Get your head out of you a** and stop being so bitter about events that occurred before any of us even existed.
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It was a genocide. They were treated that way precisely because they were different, nonwhite.
Still I don't see what's wrong with a white family adopting a Native American girl.
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