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Chart Listings: 2015 Nielsen Soundscan Report
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Originally posted by iHype.
You may not like Streaming but you're crazy if you think it's going to die and people will stop listening to music on their computers/phones.
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People may... but the remaining crowd who's still buying CDs will in the future switch to vinyl. and ... vinyl is the only physical format that can bring back the elderly aka my generation (30-75 y.o.).
And since the music industry isn't about volume, but revenue and since vinyl is substantially more expensive than CDs.. Vinyl is the future.
Just imagine that the overall French music industry shift 5x more albums than what vinyl sold in the US this year. Vinyl is soon going to surpass the size of the French albums market and from then on.. the victory is imminent.
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Streaming Impact: 41% of people who purchased 25 the first week said that its lack of availability on streaming services impacted their purchase decision But 86% of those people that they would have bought it anyway.
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Interesting
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Originally posted by stevyy
People may... but the remaining crowd who's still buying CDs will in the future switch to vinyl. and ... vinyl is the only physical format that can bring back the elderly aka my generation (30-75 y.o.).
And since the music industry isn't about volume, but revenue and since vinyl is substantially more expensive than CDs.. Vinyl is the future.
Just imagine that the overall French music industry shift 5x more albums than what vinyl sold in the US this year. Vinyl is soon going to surpass the size of the French albums market and from then on.. the victory is imminent.
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You have to realize this is a market bubble. It's not going to last, we can look at many trends that come and go as an example. For many vinyl collecting is an in trend, for others it's a serious hobby. Also, the majority of vinyl is purchased used rather than new. The vinyl market is not sustainable at the current inflated prices. There was a time when they were much cheaper than CDs.
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Originally posted by stevyy
People may... but the remaining crowd who's still buying CDs will in the future switch to vinyl. and ... vinyl is the only physical format that can bring back the elderly aka my generation (30-75 y.o.).
And since the music industry isn't about volume, but revenue and since vinyl is substantially more expensive than CDs.. Vinyl is the future.
Just imagine that the overall French music industry shift 5x more albums than what vinyl sold in the US this year. Vinyl is soon going to surpass the size of the French albums market and from then on.. the victory is imminent.
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If you didn't notice the top selling Vinyl album sold… 116,000 copies. This was THE top seller, an exception. A normal mainstream artist is only selling a few thousand on Vinyl. Most artists don't even release on Vinyl because the expense is only successful for artists who have fan bases willing to go out and spend that much. An average consumer isn't buying a $25 Vinyl for each artist that release albums they like, only a couple.
For Vinyl to get to a level where it could be most of an artists profit, the industry's main profit, and sell to a good level for most artists that will take atleast a decade, if not two or more. And this is IF Vinyl keeps increasing and isn't just a short-term comeback.
Streaming is still the dominant form in the industry for the next while.
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I looked more into the report and some of the findings on public opinion of streaming is kinda concerning
The #1 reason cited for not subscribing to a streaming service is that "they are too expensive". Subscriptions generally run from $5-$10 a month - that's less than one album purchase a month. Family plans exist to further keep costs down
The #2 reason is that they already have methods of streaming music for free. I guess this means that Spotify and other services that adopt freemium plans need to rethink the incentives to upgrading to a paid plan.
78% of people are "somewhat/very unlikely" to subscribe to a streaming service.
Despite these obstacles streaming is still growing like crazy. Imagine how big it can be once everything is figured out
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So looking at the increases, does this technically mean people consumed music more in 2015 than 2014? Wouldn't that be a good thing?
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Originally posted by Aiden
So looking at the increases, does this technically mean people consumed music more in 2015 than 2014? Wouldn't that be a good thing?
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Yes. I'm also pretty sure it means more money was made from music, so the industry grew.
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Originally posted by iHype.
If you didn't notice the top selling Vinyl album sold… 116,000 copies. This was THE top seller, an exception. A normal mainstream artist is only selling a few thousand on Vinyl. Most artists don't even release on Vinyl because the expense is only successful for artists who have fan bases willing to go out and spend that much. An average consumer isn't buying a $25 Vinyl for each artist that release albums they like, only a couple.
For Vinyl to get to a level where it could be most of an artists profit, the industry's main profit, and sell to a good level for most artists that will take atleast a decade, if not two or more. And this is IF Vinyl keeps increasing and isn't just a short-term comeback.
Streaming is still the dominant form in the industry for the next while.
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yea and not to mention a majority of records that are sold are older catalog albums. at least thats my experience buying them
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Yes. I'm also pretty sure it means more money was made from music, so the industry grew.
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I don't know about money especially if streaming was the dominant form since not as much money is made in streams compared to cd/vinyl purchases, but I think this does confirm that streaming is somewhat helping industry since it's getting people to invest in music again even if it doesn't make as much money.
The industry will probably start to see growth again once streamers like Spotify get rid of their freemium models.
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Singles should not be included in streaming. People are streaming only the singles for some albums and it is looking like they are streaming the whole album.
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Total On-Demand Streams (Audio + Video Combined)
1. Fetty Wap - Trap Queen 616,463,000
2. Silentó - Watch Me (Whip / Nae Nae) 563,406,000
3. Mark Ronson - Uptown Funk! f/Bruno Mars 555,808,000
4. Wiz Khalifa - See You Again f/Charlie Puth 472,264,000
5. The Weeknd - The Hills 444,018,000
6. Ed Sheeran - Thinking Out Loud 350,579,000
7. Adele - Hello 334,799,000
8. Omi - Cheerleader (Felix Jaehn Remix Radio Edit) 328,365,000
9. Fetty Wap - 679 f/Remy Boyz 322,176,000
10. The Weeknd - Can't Feel My Face 314,499,000
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Audio Streams
1. Fetty Wap - Trap Queen 214,842,000
2. The Weeknd - The Hills 207,504,000
3. Drake - Hotline Bling 177,413,000
4. The Weeknd - Can't Feel My Face 174,451,000
5. Major Lazer - Lean On f/DJ Snake & MØ 167,819,000
6. Mark Ronson - Uptown Funk! f/Bruno Mars 160,763,000
7. Fetty Wap - 679 f/Remy Boyz 155,994,000
8. Justin Bieber - What Do You Mean? 154,446,000
9. Skrillex & Diplo - Where Are Ü Now f/Justin Bieber 153,575,000
10. The Weeknd - Earned It 151,941,000
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This means that "Hello" is already 7X Platinum by RIAA standards
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^ and Trap Queen is eligible for 9x
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Originally posted by Hector
This means that "Hello" is already 7X Platinum by RIAA standards
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"Trap Queen" is eligible for 8x Platinum, soon 9x Platinum by RIAA standards.
2.6M sales + 616M streams (6.16M equivalent for RIAA) = 8.76M.
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Video Streams
1. Silentó - Watch Me (Whip / Nae Nae) 487,490,000
2. Fetty Wap - Trap Queen 401,621,000
3. Mark Ronson - Uptown Funk! f/Bruno Mars 395,045,000
4. Wiz Khalifa - See You Again f/Charlie Puth 327,156,000
5. Taylor Swift - Shake It Off 237,745,000
6. The Weeknd - The Hills 236,514,000
7. Ed Sheeran - Thinking Out Loud 204,804,000
8. Adele - Hello 198,963,000
9. Taylor Swift - Blank Space 192,930,000
10. Omarion - Post To Be f/Chris Brown & Jhene Aiko 192,681,000
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Other eligible certifications:
Watch Me - 8x
See You Again - 8x
Cheerleader - 6x
679 - 5x
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Originally posted by umich
679 - 5x
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Originally posted by Aiden
I don't know about money especially if streaming was the dominant form since not as much money is made in streams compared to cd/vinyl purchases, but I think this does confirm that streaming is somewhat helping industry since it's getting people to invest in music again even if it doesn't make as much money.
The industry will probably start to see growth again once streamers like Spotify get rid of their freemium models.
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But the conversion rate of #streams to 1 album is based on revenue, as far as I know. So 1 SEA is equal to 1 sale of an album.
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