[abrahamjmr]

Originally posted by Remember When

Kelly is very local. No one cares about her outside US. And her VEVO views is tragic

Stronger - The massive worldwide hit: 170 million
WTH - The flop: ~250 million
Not to mention Wish You Were Here - The bigger flop ~250 million

4 million people cared enough to buy her single in the US. 3 million more outside of it.

Spotify:
Hearbeat Song - 86 million
Stronger - 80 million
HTNGU - 34 million
What the Hell - 33 million

Oops.

[prollyallmyfault]

Also Helly Kitty should count as negative sales and permanent damage to Avril's image, accomplished in this decade.

[-Lewymocha-]

Kelly and Avril stans, can we at least say that this thread was worth opening, and it is a close argument, both sides have arguments for pretty successful impact this decade. I am proud that both sides have valid arguments and receipts.

Compared to this thread which died eight posts in

http://atrl.net/?t=907075

Let us Avril and Kelly stans unite, and be thankful our faves don't go for the traditional pop sound, and can find some success in the current electro pop dominated music industry.

[Anticipating]

Kelly in the US, Avril everywhere else.

[-Lewymocha-]

Originally posted by Anticipating

Kelly in the US, Avril everywhere else.

Yas You are SLAYING these threads

[Temporal]

Originally posted by Anticipating

Kelly in the US, Avril everywhere else.

I'd say Kelly in the english speaking world and Avril outside of it, but yeah same general principle.

[musicgirl224]

Tbh this is just like comparing Demi Lovato and Selena Gomez's popularity

The differences between them are negligible at best

[♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚]

Kelly

[prollyallmyfault]

Originally posted by ClarksonSlays

I'd say Kelly in the english speaking world and Avril outside of it, but yeah same general principle.

That's fair - Avril is probably more popular in Asia? Kelly certainly in UK, AUS, (perhaps even Canada?), etc.

[Witch Privilege]

Well Kelly had a #1 hit, and won a Grammy.

I haven't been paying attention to Avril. Did she do either of those?

[Temporal]

Originally posted by prollyallmyfault

That's fair - Avril is probably more popular in Asia? Kelly certainly in UK, AUS, (perhaps even Canada?), etc.

Yeah, Avril slaughters Kelly in Japan for sure, though Kelly puts up a considerable fight in South Korea. Not sure about the rest of Asia but I'd bet on Avril. For Canada it would probably go to Avril by a slight margin with the rest of the Anglophone world going for Kelly.

[KKCuteCat]

Originally posted by ClarksonSlays

This is so full of BS. Avril has released 8 singles this decade while Kelly - not including her irrelevant Christmas singles - has released 9. Kelly has sold more singles overall and averaged.

Piece by Piece and Avril Lavinge flopped, except Piece by Piece is Kelly's 6th (7th including Wrapped in Red) album while AL is Avril's 5th.

But Hello Kitty is barely a single . We all know that it's only an Asian single and can still manage to debut on Hot 100.

Plus most of Kelly's single sales are from Stronger

[Temporal]

Originally posted by KKCuteCat

But Hello Kitty is barely a single . We all know that it's only an Asian single and can still manage to debut on Hot 100.

Plus most of Kelly's single sales are from Stronger

Even without HK, Kelly's average is still higher. Hello Kitty debuted on the H100 because of the controversy it caused.

And most of Avril's sales are from Goodbye Lullaby, your point?

[abrahamjmr]

Originally posted by KKCuteCat

But Hello Kitty is barely a single . We all know that it's only an Asian single and can still manage to debut on Hot 100.

Plus most of Kelly's single sales are from Stronger

She had a smash out of that album.

Catch My Breath and Heartbeat Song sold decently.

[Temporal]

Originally posted by abrahamjmr

She had a smash out of that album.

Catch My Breath and Heartbeat Song sold decently.

Yes, she had a smash out of the album. Again, so what? That still contributes to her being more successful this decade. I don't understand your argument.

And yes they did.

[KKCuteCat]

Originally posted by ClarksonSlays

Even without HK, Kelly's average is still higher. Hello Kitty debuted on the H100 because of the controversy it caused.

And most of Avril's sales are from Goodbye Lullaby, your point?

HTNGU sold 2.5 million worlwides. And Goodbye Lullaby is a whole era. Stronger is a single, not a whole era

[KKCuteCat]

Originally posted by ClarksonSlays

Yes, she had a smash out of the album. Again, so what? That still contributes to her being more successful this decade. I don't understand your argument.

And yes they did.

It's funny because i think he/she support your ideal and you go against her

[AMIT]

Avril.

[Remember When]

Stronger: 1,7 million (1.1 million from US)
GH: 1 million (650k from US)
WIR: 1 million (800k from US)
PBP: 300k (200k from US)
Average 1 million/album

GL: 1.65 million
AL: 750k
Average: 1.2 million/album

Stronger had a hit single and a Grammy to sell 1,7 million
GL sold 1,65 million without any of those two

And I believe Avril's lastest era did better than Kelly's both in US and WW

[prollyallmyfault]

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