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Discussion: Is Rihanna the biggest threat in the industry?
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Originally posted by B'Day
You're denying Beyonce's reign? $200m grossing tour, #1 in 111 countries and has the fastest selling album on iTunes in history. Let's not forget her owning the 'surprise release' technique that many artists are now 'inspired' by. Look closer, Horus.
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Originally posted by Pop
No.
After Beyonce and Taylor effortlessly slayed, Rihanna's new single is struggling. It would be silly to call her a threat.
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Umm... Taylor has been brilliantly, strategically promoting herself for years just for her inevitable pop album. Beyonce surprised released 17 videos and 14 songs, I wouldn't call those effortless and I think it's rude that you do. Those girls put in work.
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Member Since: 6/5/2010
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Originally posted by B'Day
You're denying Beyonce's reign? $200m grossing tour, #1 in 111 countries and has the fastest selling album on iTunes in history. Let's not forget her owning the 'surprise release' technique that many artists are now 'inspired' by. Look closer, Horus.
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Beliebers teas
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by B'Day
You're denying Beyonce's reign? $200m grossing tour, #1 in 111 countries and has the fastest selling album on iTunes in history. Let's not forget her owning the 'surprise release' technique that many artists are now 'inspired' by. Look closer, Horus.
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You know very well he's speaking of the Tedder written pop lead single XO which wasn't able to do as well as 45S is doing
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Member Since: 8/25/2012
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Originally posted by Trent W
Just trying to figure out were the anger is coming from thoo.........
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You're the only one angry. Don't you make like at least 10 threads about a certain Queen B every month?
There's people making threads about Rihanna because she just released her lead single. Happens to every musician. Shady ones get closed anyway. No need to turn her into a victim. I'm sure she couldn't care less about what some ATRL member has to say about her music.
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Originally posted by IsidoraMarí
Umm... Taylor has been brilliantly, strategically promoting herself for years just for her inevitable pop album. Beyonce surprised released 17 videos and 14 songs, I wouldn't call those effortless and I think it's rude that you do. Those girls put in work.
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And Beyonce ended up with Unapologetic numbers, even with a Superbowl performace, Pepsi deal and touring all year long, but I know they don't want to talk about that.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Lethal
Beyonce sold 80,000 copies of her surprise album (priced at $15.99) in 3 hours whereas Rihanna barely sold 50,000 copies of her surprise single (priced at $1.29) after a whole day.
What do you have to say about that?
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Beyoncé is frontloaded, Rihanna not, that's the difference
And you're getting off topic, no one is talking about Beyoncé here, she isn't on the level of Rihanna this decade, so stop being off-topic.
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Originally posted by Lethal
Beyonce sold 80,000 copies of her surprise album (priced at $15.99) in 3 hours whereas Rihanna barely sold 50,000 copies of her surprise single (priced at $1.29) after a whole day.
What do you have to say about that?
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How many copies of XO were sold in one day though?
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by lonnie
The ones where she's top ten in every single big market in the world?
The one where she's top 5 in Canada, U.K, Germany, U.S.A, France, Norway, South Africa e.t.c?
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Yes that one. The one that has consistently been getting red updates after only 2 days in all of those markets that you mentioned and more.
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Originally posted by Trent W
Taylor Rihanna and Pink are the only ones selling albums, singles and grossing, Adele is not a pop girl, and the majority of people won't count Beyoncé cause she hasn't had a hit since 8 years ago and thats extremely important.
And I'm not saying the others are not successful, is just that Rihanna is in a position were she's a competition for everyone in every single area. That's what's the thread about.
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Drunk in love, Telephone, Halo, Sweet Dreams, IIWAB and Single Ladies were all hits released after your so called 8 year time frame. Math is not your strong suit evidently.
Rihanna can't even sell 300k albums in her first week, how on earth is she a threat to Beyonce, Adele or Taylor? Her tour gross doesnt touch Beyonce or Taylors either. Do better.
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Nah not really my fav did like 3 performances and outsold her last album and she outgrossed her with ease.
Then we have Taylor and Adele oh and Pink who also outsold her latest album.
Katy sells singles better.
And performing wise she aint a threat to anyone.
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Why does she have to be a threat? Why do you have to make this one big competition? Why can't you just accept the fact various respectable, talented women are slaying side by side?
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Originally posted by lonnie
How many copies of XO were sold in one day though?
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This is a complete different scenario and you know it. All of the focus was on the album because that's what was released FIRST and it sold well.
This thread is dumb. EVERY. SINGLE. ARTIST gets targeted when they start a new era. Did you guys not see the 1989 threads, the Applause vs Roar threads, the Britney Jean threads etc?
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Member Since: 5/20/2012
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Originally posted by lonnie
How many copies of XO were sold in one day though?
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1 million people owned the song within 10 days of the album release.
What are you trying to say?
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Ressti
You're the only one angry. Don't you make like at least 10 threads about a certain Queen B every month?
There's people making threads about Rihanna because she just released her lead single. Happens to every musician. Shady ones get closed anyway. No need to turn her into a victim. I'm sure she couldn't care less about what some ATRL member has to say about her music.
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Rihanna is being bullied more than usual, I know everyone gets their fair share here. but is too much, so its easy to figure out that she's that.
And I never make Beyonce hated threads, just point out the flaws in her career people cant handle in this forum. I love Beyonce
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Originally posted by lonnie
How many copies of XO were sold in one day though?
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XO wasnt even available for purchase until an entire week after the album was released. By then everyone was already buying the entire album rather than a quick lil single.
But continue comparing a traditional lead single to basically an album track and see where that gets you, Lonnie
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Originally posted by Lethal
Drunk in love, Telephone, Halo, Sweet Dreams, IIWAB and Single Ladies were all hits released after your so called 8 year time frame. Math is not your strong suit evidently.
Rihanna can't even sell 300k albums in her first week, how on earth is she a threat to Beyonce, Adele or Taylor? Her tour gross doesnt touch Beyonce or Taylors either. Do better.
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Do not forget Pink.
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Member Since: 8/25/2012
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Originally posted by ImsoLOUD
And Beyonce ended up with Unapologetic numbers, even with a Superbowl performace, Pepsi deal and touring all year long, but I know they don't want to talk about that.
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Unapologetic numbers with only 3 promo performances, music snippets and 30 tour dates.
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Originally posted by Trent W
Rihanna is being bullied more than usual, I know everyone gets their fair share here. but is too much, so its easy to figure out that she's that.
And I never make Beyonce hated threads, just point out the flaws in her career people cant handle in this forum. I love Beyonce
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I know you love Beyoncé, but maybe try to show that love instead of the fumes.
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