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News: New Charlie Hebdo Cover- shows Prophet Muhammad holding sign
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Originally posted by H-I-M
Not Jésus and a swear word in the same sentence. See what Christians have to deal with, on a daily basis ?
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Imagine if extremist Christians resorted to violence every time Jesus, Mary, Joseph, God, and the spirit thing were offended. This world would be in ruins. They had their moments 500 years ago but at least they've made progress and kept up with the times.
I see nothing wrong with that illustration. It's actually peaceful as it depicts your prophet guy being compassionate and loving and sympathetic toward the victims...
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Originally posted by H-I-M
Neither are Christians
You shall not make for yourself a carved image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above or that is on the earth beneath or that is in the water below
Exodus 20:4
The only places where you'll find those paintings are in CATHOLIC edifices and households.
That's one of the many distinctions between Catholic Christians and Protestant Christians.
The pic Bruce posted of CH making fun of the Holy trinity is way worse than anything they've done to the Prophet by the way.
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You can't tell me there aren't drawings of Jesus everywhere, it's accepted by and large. I mean he has been depicted in art for centuries and no one seems to have objected?
Also the fact that one denomination accepts it and the other doesn't isn't relevant, none of the denominations in Islam accepts drawings of Prophet Muhammad so it's not the same.
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Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
'Except the racists' right so everyone in France?
The drawing is insulting because all drawings of Prophet Muhammad are insulting.
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What are you trying to say ? It's you that insunuating and getting insulting.
EVERYONE in France ? Yeah right, you really don't know this country at all. Since the attacks, nobody's blamed the Muslims for what happened (I'll say it again, except the racists... which is a minority of the population... I didn't know that France was the only country with racist people but whatever).
How could people blame the Muslims for what happened when one of our cops, Muslim as well, is dead to protect us ? What a ridiculous statement.
As they say, you only believe what you want to believe at the end of the day. If you want to convince yourself this drawing is insulting, well there you go... I'm just saying that it's a shame... because there's so much more to it.
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This is why the magazine has been attacked on numerous occasions (not just this year).
I think it's blasphemous and disrespectful, religion is a subject we should all respect no matter who/what our belief is.
Of course for some reason the majority think it's perfectly acceptable to dispict Muhammad in this manner, despite me thinking most people would be more understanding of a group's outrage if it were Jesus Christ instead.
Edit: I mean, has everyone seen the cartoons? What's "comedic" about a stereotypical Muslim-looking person, with intention of being a religious founder, with a bomb on their head instead of a kufi?
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Originally posted by Opacho
Imagine if extremist Christians resorted to violence every time Jesus, Mary, Joseph, God, and the spirit thing were offended. This world would be in ruins. They had their moments 500 years ago but at least they've made progress and kept up with the times.
I see nothing wrong with that illustration. It's actually peaceful as it depicts your prophet guy being compassionate and loving and sympathetic toward the victims...
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THANK YOU.
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Originally posted by Opacho
Imagine if extremist Christians resorted to violence every time Jesus, Mary, Joseph, God, and the spirit thing were offended. This world would be in ruins. They had their moments 500 years ago but at least they've made progress and kept up with the times.
I see nothing wrong with that illustration. It's actually peaceful as it depicts your prophet guy being compassionate and loving and sympathetic toward the victims...
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The same can be said about Muslims. There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. If everytime something offensive happened towards Muslims (and it happens often) and they reacted to it then the world would be destroyed.
Yet 99.9% don't. The fact that Islam has been given such a violent undertone is wrong. Extremism is the true culprit .
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Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
You can't tell me there aren't drawings of Jesus everywhere, it's accepted by and large. I mean he has been depicted in art for centuries and no one seems to have objected?
Also the fact that one denomination accepts it and the other doesn't isn't relevant, none of the denominations in Islam accepts drawings of Prophet Muhammad so it's not the same.
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But what about that sexual implicit trio pic of the trinity ? That's blasphemy over 9000, just because Christians didn't cause a terrorist attack and kill people, doesn't mean they didn't object...
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People still explaining the reasons why the magazine has been attacked, justifying these horrrible acts.... I can't believe it.
So it's okay to KILL people because of that... This is the magazine's fault, ok.... I thought it was because of these ****ing terrorists...
And why 2 cops (one of them was Muslim) have been killed ? There's NO ****ING EXCUSES for these crimes ffs.
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The same can be said about Muslims. There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. If everytime something offensive happened towards Muslims (and it happens often) and they reacted to it then the world would be destroyed.
Yet 99.9% don't. The fact that Islam has been given such a violent undertone is wrong. Extremism is the true culprit .
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Thank You
anyway that turban looks like man's balls
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Originally posted by IBeMe
The same can be said about Muslims. There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. If everytime something offensive happened towards Muslims (and it happens often) and they reacted to it then the world would be destroyed.
Yet 99.9% don't. The fact that Islam has been given such a violent undertone is wrong. Extremism is the true culprit .
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That's why I said 'extremists', there are hardly any left (KKK in the States maybe). Muslims in my country are some of the sweetest people I've ever met and there have been no incidents coming from either sides.
Do I think a painting/caricature/poorly illustrated scribble on a piece of paper of some religious icon warrants death? No. I don't care what your religion is, if you're trying to justify what happened by something like (they asked for it) you are a horrible person because you value your ideals more than someone's life. And it all boils down to that.
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Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can do anything they want. They're insensitive
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Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can do anything they want. They're insensitive
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So you're saying that they deserve what happened to them because they were "insensitive" ?
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I was expecting something worse tbh.
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Originally posted by Opacho
That's why I said 'extremists', there are hardly any left (KKK in the States maybe). Muslims in my country are some of the sweetest people I've ever met and there have been on incidents coming from either sides.
Do I think a painting/caricature/poorly illustrated scribble on a piece of paper of some religious icon warrants death? No. I don't care what your religion is, if you're trying to justify what happened by something like (they asked for it) you are a horrible person because you value your ideals more than someone's life. And it all boils down to that.
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Did I say any of this? Or hint at any of what your saying? All I said is like Christians ,Muslims are plenty on earth. If they attacked everytime they got offended the world would be wiped out. Just like with the Christians you mentioned.
PlZ separate your paragraphs in order To facilitate communication with the person you are replying to. to get a clear understanding of what parts your targeting at them and what parts are just another topic, idea , subject
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
Why the warning tags?
LET THE WHOLE WORLD SEE THIS
It's just a drawing of him. And even if it showed him in ****ographic poses, or disemboweled, or whatever, that is totally fine. Religious figures SHOULD be mocked and dismantled and be done away with. They are not above ANYTHING.
LET THE WHOLE WORLD SEE THIS IMAGE. There is Mohammed in a drawing. DEAL WITH IT.
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People should learn to respect each other, including religious beliefs, traditions and cultural differences, not mock each other. We shouldnt mock something that is sacred to so many, and they should learn to tolerate that non-muslims dont have to behave according to their principles and laws. Nothing more just a little bit of respect and tolerance is needed. It sounds like it should be easy, yet it was and probably will be never achieved
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I don't know why RihannasVeryOwn is trying to depict France as a racist country in every topic related to the shooting ?
Did you have a bad experience when you were in France or what ?
I studied in France for a few years and i didn't see any kind of racism, it's a very multicultural country, who is accepting of people of any colors or religion as long as they respect the values of France.
Litteraly anyone can be french if they wanted to ?
Among the 3 police men who died, one was white, one was an arab, one was a black woman. Even someone killed among the Charlie Hebdo crew is named Mustapha Ourrad.
It has nothing to do with race so stop bringing it up.
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Originally posted by H-I-M
So you're saying that they deserve what happened to them because they were "insensitive" ?
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Nope. What i'm trying to say is we should respect each other. Those tragedy wouldn't happen if they not playing and insulting certain religion issues.
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Originally posted by TheVoiceXtina
Bruce, religion is a VERY touchy subject for most. I believe the whole thing is what's holding back society from being progressive but for some, it is their life. It is the morals, code of conduct they live by.
To see some exploit that for no reason other than to cause a stir would greatly anger people.
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Mhm.
It's like the average gay on here getting mad over homophobic jokes while other non-gays may find it humorous.
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Originally posted by IBeMe
Did I say any of this? Or hint at any of what your saying? All I said is like Christians ,Muslims are plenty on earth. If they attacked everytime they got offended the world would be wiped out. Just like with the Christians you mentioned.
PlZ separate your paragraphs in order To facilitate communication with the person you are replying to. to get a clear understanding of what parts your targeting at them and what parts are just another topic, idea , subject
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It's separated. the first paragraph was a response to you. The other one was just my personal opinion as I saw other people posting stuff like 'they're asking for it'.
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Originally posted by H-I-M
So you're saying that they deserve what happened to them because they were "insensitive" ?
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Nowhere did he say that in his post. Leave.
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