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Discussion: I noticed everytime we talk about racism on ATRL...
Member Since: 3/8/2012
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Originally posted by Jety92
You're right.
It just kind of different here in latin america. Racism is not THAT bad, homophobic is.
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Yep I'm sure racial situations differ throughout the world hence why I said in the US. Told bad to hear homophobia is a problem in latin america though hopefully we can all just move ahead of these kind of things and treat people for the individual they are
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Member Since: 9/12/2012
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
Don't listen to those people about "white saviors", that gives me Azealia Banks messiness teas. Having a conversation about the racial situation in the US is much better than staying quiet and doing nothing about it.
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Yeah, I never really got the "white saviors" thing, but I've accepted that I'll never fully comprehend the racism that minorities in the United States face just because I'm white. I figured it was just one of those things I didn't get and wouldn't get as a white person. ![@michael.](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/micheal_zps45ccf519.gif)
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Member Since: 6/12/2011
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Originally posted by Mekitor
Yeah I notice that. If Whites have an opinion they are branded as Racist. ![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif) Sometimes they call me Racist too if I disagree with some opinions.
I am Brown hispanic guy (Half Ecuadorian/Half Puerto Rican - Born in NJ) here and I actually have experience Racism from All Races. But since I used to live in a majority Black neighborhood before, I (and my family) experience more Racism form Blacks to be Honest. Maybe because I did not want to act Ghetto or something. But anyway... I now live in a Majority White Neighborhood and I don't see Racism as much as I did before. But it does happened sometimes though. So White People are also a little bit racist too. But as long as nobody gets physical with me, I ain't complaining. ![:o](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRLSmilies/redface_zpsfd99364e.gif)
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Originally posted by YaDirtyGoddess
Black People are the most racist of all
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Originally posted by Reza
im Mexican American and even I get called racist by black people if I don't agree with them. Apparently I don't understand what racism is because im not black? ![rolleyes](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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Generalizing. I feel sorry for what you've gone through, but it's true. ![Lipton](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/5b373a2e.gif)
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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This thread. ![rofl](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/b51cb370.gif)
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It's such a surprise that a Beyonce fan made this thread... NOT!
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This is why Atrl is an inappropriate area for race conversations.
There's many forms of racism, and institutionalized is one of them. Don't confuse racism, with discrimination, and prejudice. Anyone can face prejudice and discrimination. Racism is much more complicated, but I believe anyone can experience it. But the issue is like sexism. Can men experience it also if they happen to be the dominant sex?
Anyway, if we're speaking of a country that's a patriarchal white society like much of the Western world, then people of color not including white hispanics will face harsh prejudice, discrimination and racism. The most a white person in those societies will face is the word "honky". Its like how with men there's no bad word to call a promiscuous male, yet there's plenty for women.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Reza
I HATE how black people always want to talk about racism and when anyone who isn't black has an opinion on the issue they are called a racist. ![Lipton](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/5b373a2e.gif)
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Its not just BLACK people ![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif)
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Originally posted by Hugamari
Yeah, I never really got the "white saviors" thing, but I've accepted that I'll never fully comprehend the racism that minorities in the United States face just because I'm white. I figured it was just one of those things I didn't get and wouldn't get as a white person. ![@michael.](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/micheal_zps45ccf519.gif)
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Hmm idk the white saviour thing really depends on the situation and context. I think its generally a bit of a stupid idea, as long as the person genuinely wants to help thats good with me ![:)](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by Jety92
You're right.
It just kind of different here in latin america. Racism is not THAT bad, homophobic is.
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I have heard conflicting things about it. Such as the people who would face racism are likely to not say anything. While those in the United Stats (besides Asians) will speak out about it. Like in many novelas you'll most likely see whites in a majority of the roles, but a person who isn't white will not get a role or play a maid or some crap. Every place has their brand of discrimination and racism.
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I think its in ATRL and outside of ATRL because Ive gotten called racist for having a different opinion despite being Afro-Hispanic myself. Even in real life, the fact that I have a lighter skin complexion, and speak Spanish makes my opinion invalid in race discussions according to some black people
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White people get to live their easy privileged lives and at the same time complain when POC want to be treated as equals. They're just blind to the injustices or refuse to acknowledge it.
BTW nothing is hard about being white. At all. You might be disadvantaged by being poor or homosexual or a woman, but what is hard about being white? I'm curious
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by KareBear
White people get to live their easy privileged lives and at the same time complain when POC want to be treated as equals. They're just blind to the injustices or refuse to acknowledge it.
BTW nothing is hard about being white. At all. You might be disadvantaged by being poor or homosexual or a woman, but what is hard about being white? I'm curious
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Originally posted by KareBear
White people get to live their easy privileged lives and at the same time complain when POC want to be treated as equals. They're just blind to the injustices or refuse to acknowledge it.
BTW nothing is hard about being white. At all. You might be disadvantaged by being poor or homosexual or a woman, but what is hard about being white? I'm curious
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im sorry I don't care if I get a WP but how can you be so STUPID? just because you are white it doesn't mean that you have an easy life. ![Ace Reject](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/c74c86fd.gif) people go through so much stuff especially financially. How can such ignorant people exist on here? ![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif)
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Originally posted by Tropez
I have heard conflicting things about it. Such as the people who would face racism are likely to not say anything. While those in the United Stats (besides Asians) will speak out about it. Like in many novelas you'll most likely see whites in a majority of the roles, but a person who isn't white will not get a role or play a maid or some crap. Every place has their brand of discrimination and racism.
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You are correct. There is a lot of Racism in Latin America but they hardly speak about it, since in those countries are much more control by the minority rich Whites. And then you have mestizos also talking bad about the Natives Americans or the Blacks there. Racism and injustice is much worse in latin America than in the USA to be honest.
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Also just because you're white doesn't mean you will instantly lead a successful life ![ahh](images/smilies/images/smilies/ahh.gif)
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
Also just because you're white doesn't mean you will instantly lead a successful life ![ahh](images/smilies/images/smilies/ahh.gif)
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The fact that so many black people believe this just shows how brainwashed about white America they are. They act as though they will always fail at life while white people will succeed. I feel bad for them. ![JonnyϟLightning](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/jonny_zpsc73391c5.png)
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Member Since: 9/12/2012
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Originally posted by Reza
im sorry I don't care if I get a WP but how can you be so STUPID? just because you are white it doesn't mean that you have an easy life. ![Ace Reject](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/c74c86fd.gif) people go through so much stuff especially financially. How can such ignorant people exist on here? ![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif)
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That person acknowledged disadvantages due to economic status, gender, and sexuality. He was specifically talking about being white.
For example: A poor, gay, white male still has a better standing in society than a poor, gay, black male.
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Because some people pull that card when it's beneficial to them and/or their faves, and in a very resentful way.
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Originally posted by Hugamari
That person acknowledged disadvantages due to economic status, gender, and sexuality. He was specifically talking about being white.
For example: A poor, gay, white male still has a better standing in society than a poor, gay, black male.
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And? how does standing matter if you are still poor and hungry? cant you understand that all people go through struggles? Black people focus entirely TOO MUCH on skin color. like get your S*** together, get your lives together and stop blaming white people for all your problems. ![:o](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRLSmilies/redface_zpsfd99364e.gif) Goodbye!
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Member Since: 6/12/2011
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Originally posted by Tropez
This is why Atrl is an inappropriate area for race conversations.
There's many forms of racism, and institutionalized is one of them. Don't confuse racism, with discrimination, and prejudice. Anyone can face prejudice and discrimination. Racism is much more complicated, but I believe anyone can experience it. But the issue is like sexism. Can men experience it also if they happen to be the dominant sex?
Anyway, if we're speaking of a country that's a patriarchal white society like much of the Western world, then people of color not including white hispanics will face harsh prejudice, discrimination and racism. The most a white person in those societies will face is the word "honky". Its like how with men there's no bad word to call a promiscuous male, yet there's plenty for women.
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Originally posted by Tropez
I have heard conflicting things about it. Such as the people who would face racism are likely to not say anything. While those in the United Stats (besides Asians) will speak out about it. Like in many novelas you'll most likely see whites in a majority of the roles, but a person who isn't white will not get a role or play a maid or some crap. Every place has their brand of discrimination and racism.
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All this. ![clap3](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/67d90ee8.gif) I remember reading that black people in Latin America were inspired a bit by the USA's civil rights movement. It's like black people are just placed at the bottom of the totem pole and expected to just be okay with it. It's not so bad in some areas, but it is in others. When you can't get a job because of race. When you can't have a dream, you're made to just deal. Anytime someone wants to make an appearance joke, blacks are always the first to be mocked. You're the first to be suspected of something. Being vocal bothers people, but it is needed. This thread from yesterday was good. A lot of good points were made.
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