[jongshic]

Like Madonna, Katy is deep down a ruthless and manipulative opportunist who will make sure she gets what she wants

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[Yooorsh]

The only reason she's the Queen of Pop is because ahe's the only one releasing real POP music.

[katyperryismylife]

Originally posted by Bloomers

Well this essay took an unexpected turn from beginning to end

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[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

Originally posted by bobbymfw

I didn't read this all the way through but I don't agree. Katy Perry started out kind of promising and she's good at what she does but Madonna reigned supreme during her time, even amongst the Whitneys, Janets, and Cyndis. Katy Perry isn't really at the forefront of people's minds amongst her competitors Taylor, Beyonce, or Rihanna and she lacks the charisma and ruthlessness Madonna had. Bottom line: she isn't breaking any new ground, she's following a model that's already been established and proven successful. Madonna was self-made, at least more so than Katy, and definitely didn't have the almost relentless promo and marketing teams with her until much later in her career after she'd proven herself. Katy still hasn't proven she's got a loyal and steady following and her "success" is somewhat inconsistent but her team still pours $ into her non-stop to create the illusion that she's a legit superstar.

I kinda see at what you're getting into here but I disagree. Katy passed the 'legit superstar' milestone a while ago. You don't have a tour that smashes as much as PWT without being a superstar; the GP is legitimately interested in her.
This thread is about Katy Perry, not Jason Derulo, Carly Rae, or Robin Thicke.

Of course, she is not a legend/icon who is worshipped for every action and every venture, but she does pop music extremely well. She is a superstar when considering music and music only.

And not success in quotation marks and calling it inconsistent!
After 6 years in the business, she finally had two underperformances and we all know TIHWD was a horrible single choice. It wouldn't have smashed even riding the coat tails of the TD era. Birthday's video killed it.

You're doing the exact same thing; taking a weak point (saying she isn't among the ranks of Bey or Madonna -- and I agree) but using that as a launchpad to spring into your biased viewpoints that she isn't a superstar and her success is fleeting. Nope!

She is a SUPERSTAR and she has experienced INCREDIBLE success, and no one on ATRL will tell me otherwise!

note: I didn't mean for this to sound as defensive as it did, but I just don't agree. Sorry.

[DuckaDucka12]

Originally posted by Ferst

What is this mess?

fffssss

[Bang Up]

The things you're comparing are very vague and arbitrary. The fact is that Katy does not push boundaries like Madonna once did, she does not have the respect Madonna once had, she does not sell like Madonna once did, she does not have people following her every move like Madonna once did, she has never been a "pop culture phenomenon" like Madonna once was, and so on and so forth. Katy is massive and successful, obviously, but she's the kind of massive artist that people like because she's just there. She'll never be able to do what Madonna did because she'll always be forced into a box where she must please the public before she please herself. She'll forever be doomed to follow trends and do what's popular or risk fading away.

[Lord Blackout]

I'm not reading that

[Madam X]

Originally posted by Bang Up

The things you're comparing are very vague and arbitrary. The fact is that Katy does not push boundaries like Madonna once did, she does not have the respect Madonna once had, she does not sell like Madonna once did, she does not have people following her every move like Madonna once did, she has never been a "pop culture phenomenon" like Madonna once was, and so on and so forth. Katy is massive and successful, obviously, but she's the kind of massive artist that people like because she's just there. She'll never be able to do what Madonna did because she'll always be forced into a box where she must please the public before she please herself. She'll forever be doomed to follow trends and do what's popular or risk fading away.

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[MoodyBumps]

The first few bullets..

The rest.. ... ...

[ScarletWitch]

hmm interesting

[hideaway616]

Originally posted by Nicole

Too long to read, I just know Taylor just did what Katy does to 10x the critical and commercial success, so no.

well. it's not just about the number. taylor's image is totally forgettable. I wonder if ppl will remember how she looks like after 20 years.

[Dark Horse]

Originally posted by Ferst

What is this mess?

[Aurora]

Originally posted by DanceForYou

She isn't and will never be!

She is and will continue to be as long as you remain pressed.

[highwind44029]

Not a deal with Satan.

Originally posted by Retro

Really not sure if I should warn OP for shading Katy. Because he's indeed shading her.

Warn ha but keep the thread open. Everyone wins.

[B'Day]

Originally posted by dirrtydiana

You described Katy in the very first sentence.

[SpinThatShhh]

Originally posted by Yooorsh

The only reason she's the Queen of Pop is because ahe's the only one releasing real POP music.

That's enough ATRL for today...

[Gouldkaty]

Educate them

[Lose My Breath]

-Like Madonna, Katy grew up in an environment where she experienced decisions of salvation, making her into a devoted slave of the industry. Being brought up in a christian family with the knowledge of bible teachings to follow the Lord and have eternal life, she threw it all away for her deal with Satan. Instead of taking the opportunity to live a spiritual life, her fleshly desire for commercial success has formed her into a soulless product OF the world, instead of a follower IN the world.

What is this?

[c0caine]

2nd hand embarassment rn

[c0caine]

Originally posted by hideaway616

well. it's not just about the number. taylor's image is totally forgettable. I wonder if ppl will remember how she looks like after 20 years.

and who discusses katy or remembers her besides when her payola fueled generic singles are forced upon down our throats? she literally admited on wanting to commit suicide after her divorce and no one cared, she makes 0 headlines, she has no star power, her celebrity status is C list at best