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Non britney fans: Is Britney pop royalty?
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Originally posted by swissman
In what, overall album sales? I'll give her that. In reputation, respect, critical acclaim, touring, films, album sales since Beyoncé debuted, Beyoncé has outshone her.
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I agree beyonce slays
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Originally posted by swissman
uhhh... I'd say she defined the sound of pop music from 1999-2002 max. DEFINITELY not after 2010. In what way would you say she has?
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Bye. Not arguing with haters.
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Originally posted by BGXKB
Bye. Not arguing with haters.
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Then let's talk. I'm not a hater I'm being realistic. How has Britney defined the sound pop music of the 2010s? Or even past 2005? She has iconic songs like Toxic but that doesn't define the sound of the time. You'd need to mention someone like Lil Jon, or Usher for who defined the sound of 2005-2008 or whatever.
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She is pop royalty. But lets face it, Britney has accomplished everything she's going to accomplish in her life already. If she keeps releasing albums like Femme Fatale, and that leaked album called Britney Jean, then her legacy will go down hill.
i'm just waiting for her to release her 8th album. hopefully it'll change my opinion on her
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Originally posted by swissman
uhhh... I'd say she defined the sound of pop music from 1999-2002 max. DEFINITELY not after 2010. In what way would you say she has?
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HIAM made dubstep that hot Top 40 go-to from 2011-late 2012.
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Originally posted by swissman
In what, overall album sales? I'll give her that. In reputation, respect, critical acclaim, touring, films, album sales since Beyoncé debuted, Beyoncé has outshone her.
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Beyonce debuted in 1997 and has two more studio albums and Britney has still had more impact, more success, more iconic performances, more iconic music videos, etc. How can you leave out DC?
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Britney has cemented herself in pop royalty but I honestly feel she no longer has the passion for the whole "pop" thing anymore. I think she still does what she does for her fans more than for the love of it anymore.
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She will be remembered.The old Britney is absolutely pop royalty.
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It weird. She was wildly successful and impactful. It just doesn't seem right to call her a queen, icon, or anything of that sort because for 5 years (really 10 if you go back) shes been on a steep and steeper decline. Idk shes too young to be not giving a **** about her career imo.
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Originally posted by Eternium
HIAM made dubstep that hot Top 40 go-to from 2011-late 2012.
Beyonce debuted in 1997 and has two more studio albums and Britney has still had more impact, more success, more iconic performances, more iconic music videos, etc. How can you leave out DC?
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HIAM was the first dubstep usage, but it was not a revolutionary move. Skrillex was already super popular and it wasn't like HIAM had such a huge success that people scrambled to mimic it, plus there were only a handful of pop songs that mimicked it and no one would say that 2011 was defined by dub step. It was defined by dance breakdowns post chorus.
I'd gladly include DC if you want. In that case Beyonce has more #1 hits (well she already did, but by a larger margin now), and probably just as many iconic videos (Say My Name, Survivor, Bootylicious). I guess Britney has more iconic performances but I think respect and reputation go a lot farther than that, as it lasts a lot longer. But anyway what I meant was since Beyoncé's solo debut, she has outsold every Britney album.
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Yes.
As much as she sucks now, at this point she's forever part of pop music.
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This already established her as a legend.
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nope! never was, never will be
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Originally posted by Luigi
nope! never was, never will be
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oh come on.
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Originally posted by Chronix
It weird. She was wildly successful and impactful. It just doesn't seem right to call her a queen, icon, or anything of that sort because for 5 years (really 10 if you go back) shes been on a steep and steeper decline. Idk shes too young to be not giving a **** about her career imo.
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To be fair, I won't call Britney lazy. But she strikes me as having been forced into the industry from a very early age. She probably never cared about it as much as people around her who were forcing her. Sure it's a dream career, and sure you grow to love your fans, but some people don't like when they find out how much they have to put into it ('Lucky' sums it up). That said, when a certain level of success is attained, and wealth, by this person who was molded into a pop star, you just reach a point when you don't care anymore and need time to be happy (2004-2007). She's done pretty well since her return. Her stans do the most but that's another arguement...
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Originally posted by Monkey_Juice
Yes
Her impact pre Black Out is way to big for people to deny her as royalty. However she is hindering her status by releasing mediocre music and doing mediocre performances.
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not me reading this as Black OPS. let me stop playing call of duty for a while.
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Originally posted by HotHeaven
Yes. And everyone who says no its delusional and pressed tbh. Britney and Madonna basically created Pop.
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Um, no. Nobody "created" pop. Pop music came about from different artists like Cyndi Lauper, Michael Jackson, Madonna, mainly starting in the 60's and 70's with disco, so Britney didn't create pop at all
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Yes
When people say POP, the first artist to pop in my mind is Britney. So yes... No matter what happens she'll be the Pop Princess.
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