[LadyDiana]

not while Madonna is still alive... even on life support Madonna would gross more..

[WeFoundWill]

Madonna sis, Madonna.

[Summertime Love]

Originally posted by Ferrer

Oh my God. You need Jesus in your life to help you see the light.

I did say after Madonna.

[LoveLiveMusic]

Originally posted by BeyonceHatesMe

I don't think she meant as a touring artist. I think she meant as an artist over all. And you can't say that she isn't fading.

Well since we're talking about touring that's where I gathered that.

Madonna's been 'fading' from the favours of the American gp since 2003 when American Life came out but she's at least been able to add 3 more Top 10 singles in the Hot 100 since one from each era onward since American Life.

[Temporal]

Madonna, then Taylor in the States

[martinfoy]

bey is overrated as a performer, and her tours haven't really progressed, literally gaga i the only one who's at least tried to step her show up

[LoveLiveMusic]

Originally posted by NX127

OTR is 21 dates so far, not 20. And by " - $200M" I meant it's possible total gross in the long run when like 40 dates have been added, not just the ones added so far.

And I don't understand what per-show gross has to do with overall touring power ...

Yeah clock me that I was off by 1. And that's why I gave her the $200 million since we don't officially know when the tour is ending especially with the Australia rumour.

Gross per show and attendance is a factor in showing the touring power of an artist would you not agree? You're the op, you're the one who's saying that Beyonce is the biggest touring artist, so on what basis are you using to say this?

Just because she's on her second tour within the last 2 years doesn't really say much when you already know no female artist is doing this but look at One Direction their touring schedule is more impressive than anyone in the last while.

Up All Night Tour - 53 shows Dec 2011-July 2012
*7 month break*
Take Me Home Tour - 129 shows February 2013-November 2013
*5 month break*
Where We Are Tour - 69 shows April 2014-October 2014
*4 month break*
On The Road Again Tour - 22 announced shows February 2015-April 2015

Even Jay-Z is running his third tour within a year.

Legends of The Summer - 15 shows July 2013-August 2013
*2 month break*
Magna Carter World Tour - 52 shows October 2013-January 2014
*5 month break*
On The Run Tour - 21 announced shows June 2014-September 2014

[PrismaticLover]

no

[idkher]

No her average gross per date last tour wasn't even that huge, it was like $1.7 million while Rihanna's was $1.6 million, honestly Katy is going to outgross her in the US

[Retro]

Madonna.

[iamanearthling]

would on the run tour be making that much without Jay Z?. can beyonce headline her own stadium tour worldwide like Queen of Pop, Madonna can?..

[Ferrer]

Originally posted by Summertime Love

I did say after Madonna.

Oh well I guess we can be friends again now!

[M A R C]

Madonna is.

[Paparazzo]

No, Madonna is.

[AnginaWilliams]

Originally posted by idkher

No her average gross per date last tour wasn't even that huge, it was like $1.7 million while Rihanna's was $1.6 million, honestly Katy is going to outgross her in the US

1. Her tour grossed still more.
2. Her tour grossed still more.
3. Her tour grossed still more.
4. There was still enough demand to come back less than a year later and sell out stadiums.

[Aleks]

Madonna

[beyawnse]

Originally posted by idkher

No her average gross per date last tour wasn't even that huge, it was like $1.7 million while Rihanna's was $1.6 million, honestly Katy is going to outgross her in the US

Only because of North America, let's not act as if this was the norm of her gross per date.

[AnginaWilliams]

Originally posted by iamanearthling

would on the run tour be making that much without Jay Z?. can beyonce headline her own stadium tour worldwide like Queen of Pop, Madonna can?..

Jay-Z has toured 4 times in the last 2 years (Watch The Throne, Legends of Summer, Magna Carter, On The Run) and that's not counting his Barclays residency. His solo tour was far from completely sold out, neither of his other collaborative tours sold as quickly as this one and it would be safe to say that he has exhausted his demand.

[NX127]

Originally posted by LoveLiveMusic

Gross per show and attendance is a factor in showing the touring power of an artist would you not agree? You're the op, you're the one who's saying that Beyonce is the biggest touring artist, so on what basis are you using to say this?

the total is what matters, regardless of the number of dates .. jmho

And they might be 2 tours as opposed to Madonna's 1, but when regarding her as a touring artist, I think you should take 2 of them into consideration ..

Finally, getting $300m on your first and last tour in years is not really more impressive than getting two $200m tours in less than 2 years .. right ?

[Disturbia]

Yes, she is. And unlike some others, her touring power is getting even bigger.