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Discussion: Is Beyonce at Madonna/MJ level?
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Originally posted by Rei
No, from her generation only Britney is near their level IMO.
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No, but she is the closet thing we have to Michael Jackson in this generation.
Britney is no longer even in the running. Be real. Britney is not who she once was and I doubt she will ever be. Her time is up.
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
The delusion to think Whitney is on Madonna's level She had a shot back in the 90s but when you put their careers overall side by side? Whitney's last tour before she died sold so poorly, it was embarrassing.
Madonna's ability to get WW hits, good album sales and destroy everyone in touring (the 3 biggest measures of success in the music industry) for so long is unmatched.
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Everyone wants to downplay Madonna's success as if she's just your average pop artist. When she's not only a music but cultural icon who pretty music changed the idea of a female artist and women in the media. Madonna made the rules she didn't follow them, she's done so much more. Yet people here fail to realize this.
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
LOL - Michael Jackson is not on the same artistic level as Madonna. Both Madonna and Michael Jackson are the epitome of branding a name, an image. But they couldn’t be further apart in the artistic realm.
Madonna’s body of work is a reflection of her creativity, she truly has an artistic soul. Not only has she changed the direction of her musical work in every step she took, but she also took real artistic risks rarely seen in the business.
Madonna, at the peak of her fame and commercial success (with the Blond Ambition) was transitioning into her Erotica Era, That is what’s called a real artistic and creative risk. Madonna has always created different ways of expressing herself while poking the society at the same time.
Michael Jackson re-created similar sound to reproduce the success of his days of Yore. It worked - he achieved much more commercial success. Rock With You, Beat it, Thriller, Billie Jean, Bad, Smooth Criminal, Remember the Time, Black or White, You Rock My World… they are all great, but no one can deny they all sound the same - he doesn't come close to Madonna's artistic merit and impact.
I KNOW!
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Lol sis please with this novel. You can type a Harry Potter length book and that will not change the fact that as influential and iconic as Madonna is, she is not touching Michael in terms of influence, respect, remembrance, iconicness, etc. Thriller the song alone is more iconic than anything Madonna has ever done. Again, that is in no way shade to Madonna. Nobody is nor will probably ever be.
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No. Among the popstars right now, only Britney is at their level
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When Madonna passes away, you will all see how important she was for music, similar to what happened when MJ died. Until then, enjoy your delusion.
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A true legend stands on their own level. So no.
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Originally posted by Swim
When Madonna passes away, some of you will see how important she was for music, similar to what happened when MJ died. Until then, enjoy your delusion.
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MJ was still far more legendary before his death.
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Originally posted by FAME.
Lol sis please with this novel. You can type a Harry Potter length book and that will not change the fact that as influential and iconic as Madonna is, she is not touching Michael in terms of influence, respect, remembrance, iconicness, etc. Thriller the song alone is more iconic than anything Madonna has ever done. Again, that is in no way shade to Madonna. Nobody is nor will probably ever be.
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I'm pretty sure based on what you wrote you have the comprehension to read a paragraph - if you don't want to - don't.
There's no need for me to change anything - Madonna is far superior artistically and had a much greater artistic impact than Michael ever did.
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NOONE is denying Madonnas impact, you guys are hearing what you want to
But shes not on MJ's level, its not debatable
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Originally posted by FAME.
MJ was still far more legendary before his death.
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And that's your opinion.
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Member Since: 9/18/2010
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
I'm pretty sure based on what you wrote you have the comprehension to read a paragraph - if you don't want to - don't.
There's no need for me to change anything - Madonna is far superior artistically and had a much greater artistic impact than Michael ever did.
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No She most certainly has not. But if that's what you want to believe.
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Originally posted by Planet Mars
NOONE is denying Madonnas impact, you guys are hearing what you want to
But shes not on MJ's level, its not debatable
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fff @ Madonna having more impact than Michael. It's one thing to try and argue for them being on the same level but to say Madonna is MORE impactful in any way shape or form?
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Originally posted by Planet Mars
NOONE is denying Madonnas impact, you guys are hearing what you want to
But shes not on MJ's level, its not debatable
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LOL why because you said so?
I just have you the answer. When you can give me an artistic risk Michael took that = vogue - erotica
Or like a like a Virgin - true blue I might listen to you.
But seriously, madonnas body of work is musically different to the previous era. There's nothing artistic about creating the same sounding songs to achieve commercial success.
Nothing you can say will change the fact madonna has had a greater artistic impact than Jackson.
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Member Since: 9/18/2010
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Originally posted by Swim
And that's your opinion.
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It's not really an opinion though. Michael is way bigger than Madonna and there are receipts, numbers, etc to back it up.
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Bey is not on MJ''s level, realistically. But neither is Madonna, soooo
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No, she lacks the timeless iconic hits and she's local
She is more talented than Madonna though
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Yes, she is. People can act like it's a reach, but everyone will see. In 20 years, people will look back on her the way we look back on them.
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Originally posted by Rei
No, from her generation only Britney is near their level IMO.
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