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Poll: Is Katy Perry A Better Songwriter Than Taylor Swift?
View Poll Results: Katy Is A Better Songwriter than Taylor?
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Yes! Katy >>>>
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34.72% |
No. Taylor >>>>
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65.28% |
Member Since: 3/16/2012
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Originally posted by Vespertine
If we'd really like to go through a list of the topics Taylor has written about, we could talk relationships, friendship, growing up, cancer, her damn neighbors, school, fame, the list goes on...
But you can still look at JUST Taylor's relationship songs (which, btw, also comprise the majority of all popular musicians' discographies, so I'm not sure why it's just Taylor that gets called out for this ) and find 10x the dimensionality of any Katy song.
Taylor approaches relationships from every possible angle and has explored them in countless ways. Katy's worldview seems to be limited to bad metaphors and cheap sexual come-ons, but ok.
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So true though
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by gagakyle
Not even close lol. We don't even know how much of her music she actually writes.
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Katy actually writes of all her music.
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Member Since: 3/6/2014
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Originally posted by jairosuxx
What do you mean? Have you had a look on the Pazz and Jop 2012's and 2013's polls?
WANEGBT: #6 best song of 2012
Roar: #33 best song of 2013.
Even at her most commercial, Taylor is a lyrical artist.
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I think those voters were probably mostly delusional fans. WANEGBT deserves nowhere near that position.
Katy wrote Thinking of You by herself with no co-writers and imo that song is lyrically superior to anything Taylor has ever done.
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Member Since: 6/5/2010
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Originally posted by KatyLegendperry
I think those voters were probably mostly delusional fans. WANEGBT deserves nowhere near that position.
Katy wrote Thinking of You by herself with no co-writers and imo that song is lyrically superior to anything Taylor has ever done.
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Oh, okay
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Member Since: 5/9/2012
Posts: 38,050
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And all we are is skin and bone
Trained to get along
Forever going with the flow,
But you're friction
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This is a state of grace
This is the worth while fight
Love is a ruthless game
Unless you play it good and right
These are the hands of fate
You're my Achilles heel
This is the golden age of something good
And right and real
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And you take a moment
Promise me this
That you'll stand by me forever
But if God forbid fate should step in
And force us into a goodbye
If you have children someday
When they point to the pictures
Please tell them my name
Tell them how the crowds went wild
Tell them how I hope they shine
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Katy could never.
Come to me when Katy can write something as euphoric as "Enchanted", then we'll talk.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by ahauntingnearu
Ignore that user. A gaga fan will never win a horrible lyrics battle between gaga and Katy not when the former has lines like "Aphrodite lady seashell bikini garden panty VENUS" or "love it when you call me legs, in the morning buy me eggs" or "I just want to be free, I just want to be me, and I want lots of friends that invite me to their parties."
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Anyway, no Katy obviously isn't as good as Taylor at songwriting. Neither is any other pop girl.
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by MattyTacos
Katy actually writes of all her music.
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How do you know?
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Member Since: 6/10/2012
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Originally posted by MattyTacos
Katy actually writes of all her music.
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He's saying we don't know how much of her music she actually writes. Not how much of her music she has writing credits for. Two very different things.
I think most of the lyrics above pretty much prove a case in point for Taylor.
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Member Since: 6/5/2010
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Originally posted by Samuel
Anyway, no Katy obviously isn't as good as Taylor at songwriting. Neither is any other pop girl.
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I think maybe Lorde
It's good that I stan for the two most talented songwriters in the pop industry
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Member Since: 9/13/2012
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Originally posted by ahauntingnearu
Ignore that user. A gaga fan will never win a horrible lyrics battle between gaga and Katy not when the former has lines like "Aphrodite lady seashell bikini garden panty VENUS" or "love it when you call me legs, in the morning buy me eggs" or "I just want to be free, I just want to be me, and I want lots of friends that invite me to their parties."
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Many of Gaga's lyrics are stupid, but they're meant to be You picked two songs that are meant to be meaningless sex songs, and another that is intentionally cheesy (a high schooler complaining about her parents).
Katy, on the other hand, is blissfully unaware of how mediocre or childish her lyrics are even when she intends to create a serious song. And that's just the lyrics. Melodically, her songs are simple and boring (not surprising since that's a Dr. Luke hallmark at this point).
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Originally posted by jairosuxx
The delusion. Let's ask the critics about this:
According to her Wikipedia page.
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I love Taylor as well, just look at my sig. But, her singles are never on par with her actual album tracks.
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Poor Kats
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Vespertine
If we'd really like to go through a list of the topics Taylor has written about, we could talk relationships, friendship, growing up, cancer, her damn neighbors, school, fame, the list goes on...
But you can still look at JUST Taylor's relationship songs (which, btw, also comprise the majority of all popular musicians' discographies, so I'm not sure why it's just Taylor that gets called out for this ) and find 10x the dimensionality of any Katy song.
Taylor approaches relationships from every possible angle and has explored them in countless ways. Katy's worldview seems to be limited to bad metaphors and cheap sexual come-ons, but ok.
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What is she known for though? Maybe there is a reason why all her hits are break up songs, because she sucks dick (no pun intended) at writing anything else?
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Quote:
Originally posted by Vespertine
If we'd really like to go through a list of the topics Taylor has written about, we could talk relationships, friendship, growing up, cancer, her damn neighbors, school, fame, the list goes on...
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Yeah and if you did the same for Katy you could talk about relationships, sex, partying, self-empowerment, drug abuse, religion, domestic abuse, friendship, hopelessness, etc. More than just the "relationships, sex and partying" themes you mentioned earlier.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Quote:
Originally posted by Vespertine
Many of Gaga's lyrics are stupid, but they're meant to be
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Quote:
Originally posted by Vespertine
Many of Gaga's lyrics are stupid, but they're meant to be You picked two songs that are meant to be meaningless sex songs, and another that is intentionally cheesy (a high schooler complaining about her parents).
Katy, on the other hand, is blissfully unaware of how mediocre or childish her lyrics are even when she intends to create a serious song. And that's just the lyrics. Melodically, her songs are simple and boring (not surprising since that's a Dr. Luke hallmark at this point).
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Such a stupid thing to say (no offense). What "artist" says, "oh this lyric is stupid, it's perfect!" No artist intentionally includes dumb lyrics in their song, like, are you serious?!
I agree gaga at her best is probably more lyrical than Katy at her best, but Katy is far, far more consistent
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Some T. Swift stans act like she's some kind of John Lennon.
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Uh oh!
I don't know about you
But I'm feeling 22
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SHAKESPEARE OF OUR GENERATION. I CAN'T BREATHE
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Member Since: 8/26/2011
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Some T. Swift stans act like she's some kind of John Lennon.
SHAKESPEARE OF OUR GENERATION. I CAN'T BREATHE
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"Do You ever feel like a plastic bag"
sit.
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by ahauntingnearu
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Artists mean for lyrics to be dumb, silly, etc all the time. If you don't know this, perhaps you should listen to more music
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by gagakyle
How do you know?
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What makes you think Katy doesn't write her own songs? I could say the same thing about Gaga's credits and it'd have just as much of a factual basis: none. Come back when you have actual PROOF.
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