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Discussion: Is ARTPOP Gaga's 4 era?
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Originally posted by PromKing
I really care, I am a person, thus making your point false.
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Where is this idea stemming from that people 'care' about Beyonce yet not Gaga? They have their respective fanbases, everyone else is apathetic unless the song is "fun" or catchy.
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Originally posted by vuelve88
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No offense but I always see you throwing shade when you should really keep it cute since Shakira just opened less than Britney Jean and she hasn't had an album of hers make a Mediatraffic year-end list since 2006 (something even ARTPOP managed to do and no, those inflated numbers the Shaki fans always provide ain't fooling me).
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4 was a critical success tho.
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Originally posted by Siya
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This. 
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No Beyonce was never labeled as being over or a has been (unless you count her crazy haters) during the 4 era while many push this Gaga is over mss since her first single came out so.... anyway i still dont see this era as being a failure maybe it didnt match people exceptions but not a failure she will bounce back with her Beyonce get ready 
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Maybe, but not everyone can get a BEYONCE!
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Nope. 4 is better in anyway.
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Additionally, Beyonce has a much better PR strategy than Gaga. As someone else said, even if an album or song underperforms, she is still well-liked and has a great opportunity to bounce back. There's power in having the public like you as a person. Beyonce's tremendous work ethic also helps a lot.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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No, for many reasons
1. All of the singles '4' spawned managed to chart, some even charted respectably (2 Top 20 hits). None of the songs struggled as much as 'GUY' after a video release. And none of the '4' videos were that high budget, not even the lead single.
2. The underperformance of '4' can be justified if you consider the horrible lead single choice. 'Applause' on the other hand was a great choice, it was radio friendly, catchy and simple.
3. Beyonce always had the urban (and rhythmic) support, while GaGa has lost her touch with radio considering the 5 million AI peak of 'GUY' even after considerable radio promo
4. Beyonce's underperformance wasn't that highly publicized or talked about because she had a strong first week and she handled herself much better than GaGa who's had several meltdowns so far.
So, no, it's not her 4 era
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Member Since: 6/28/2012
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Gaga will never have a huge comeback , stop saying that
She only need a succesfull feat in the number 1 of BBHOT100 , to be declared as a B listed celeb like Kesha or Xtina
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Nope.
Even when 4 was not doing well commercially, Beyonce was highly praised and her performances were considered iconic.
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No, it was more like PF:RR, I agree with that.
Applause was way bigger than the 4 singles, and 4 had higher metacritic.
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Originally posted by Goombario
Gaga will never have a huge comeback , stop saying that
She only need a succesfull feat in the number 1 of BBHOT100 , to be declared as a B listed celeb like Kesha or Xtina
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If you want her to be "a B listed celeb like Xtina", she's going to need a #1 feature that will sell 7 million copies in the US, 2 Top 10 hits, both multi-platinum and an inclusion in TIME's most influential list 
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Originally posted by Truth Teller
If you want her to be "a B listed celeb like Xtina", she's going to need a #1 feature that will sell 7 million copies in the US, 2 Top 10 hits, both multi-platinum and an inclusion in TIME's most influential list |
Who wants to be like the yo-yo diet icon of our time , don´t be silly
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Originally posted by Goombario
Who wants to be like the yo-yo diet icon of our time , don´t be silly
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Apparently, you
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Originally posted by Goombario
She only need a succesfull feat in the number 1 of BBHOT100 , to be declared as a B listed celeb like Kesha or Xtina
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The OP is not asking if the era is equal to 4 by every little thing, it's asking about the fact that both are the worst performing albums and can be labeled a "bad" era for them. 4 was definitely more successful than ARTPOP and we know it but by definition we can see parallels between the two, whether Gaga will come back with a BEYONCÉ type of era depends on what she does with her new album and the time she's not releasing. We'll see.
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Originally posted by Truth Teller
Apparently, you
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LMAO that´s not a compliment
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Goombario
LMAO that´s not a compliment
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I didn't say it's a compliment, you said this is what you think GaGa can be and I told you exactly what she needs to do to achieve it.
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Originally posted by Rihinvention
When I read the title of this thread, I didn't think it was a comparison to Beyonce's album. I thought it was asking if it was Gaga's actual 4th era. And it's kind of a question I want to to pose to monsters,
Why does Gaga consider The Fame Monster an "era" when it was an EP and not a full LP.
Katy stans don't consider The Complete Confection an era. And Rihanna stans don't consider Reloaded an era. I'm not hating. I'm genuinely asking.
'Born This Way' is cited online as being Gaga's second studio album. And 'ARTPOP' is cited as being her third studio album. I know her fans say they're her 3rd and 4th. But in my opinion, ARTPOP is only her third album/era as Lady Gaga.
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Gaga treated it like it was a brand new album. It marked a stark change in her persona from that of The Fame, the music was much too dark to be considered a simple extension of The Fame, and she even set out on an entirely new world tour to promote it. More than anything, it just felt like a new era. I can't really say the same of the other re-releases you mentioned.
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