[Fireman25]

Hey what about Kelly Clarkson?

[vuelve88]

Originally posted by Nick

Maybe she'd be La Reina De Pop then but I never heard of Shakira (and neither did most of the English speaking world) until Laundry Service. Did LS sell as much as JLP? Or anything near it?

"Laundry Service" sold around 12-13 million copies in a time when album sales were already on the decline. "Jagged Little Pill" sold 19 million copies during a time when sales were great (obviously). Not too big of a difference. Though that's extremely impressive for Alanis, all her albums since have underperformed tremendously. Her latest studio album (not including the JLP acustic CD) "So-Called Chaos", released in 2004, has sold about 500,000 copies in the U.S. (worldwide sales are about as dismal).

Alanis had a huge break with "Jagged Little Pill" but has since then been unable to keep up. Shakira has been delivering since 1996, and though she was relatively unknown through most of the U.S. and Europe, she still pulled off impressive numbers with her Spanish albums.

[!!!]

Originally posted by Manuelangels

I think Ashlee should be the 2004 queen because Autobiography was a hit in the first month that it was released, and you forgot the flop singles of Britney like My Prerogative and Do Somethin'

My Prerogative peaking #4 in the Global Chart (I don't think that is a flop)
Do Somethin' was released in 2005 and it wasn't even released in the States.

Did you forget Me Against the Music, Toxic and Everytime?
All singles from In the Zone went to #1 in the Global Chart.

You said that only because you hate Britney Spears.

[Marcoxxxo]

Originally posted by vuelve88

"Laundry Service" sold around 12-13 million copies in a time when album sales were already on the decline. "Jagged Little Pill" sold 19 million copies during a time when sales were great (obviously). Not too big of a difference. Though that's extremely impressive for Alanis, all her albums since have underperformed tremendously. Her latest studio album (not including the JLP acustic CD) "So-Called Chaos", released in 2004, has sold about 500,000 copies in the U.S. (worldwide sales are about as dismal).

Alanis had a huge break with "Jagged Little Pill" but has since then been unable to keep up. Shakira has been delivering since 1996, and though she was relatively unknown through most of the U.S. and Europe, she still pulled off impressive numbers with her Spanish albums.

this is not an Alanis Vs shakira thread

Alanis also released an album on 2002 that sold 2 million copies in the USA and talking about underperforminf, the last 2 albums of shakira sold way less than Laundry service...

"Shakira returned to recording in 1995, using musical influences from a number of countries and an Alanis Morissette-oriented persona which affected some of her next albums,[10] and made her third studio one, Pies Descalzos (Bare Feet), which brought her great fame in Latin America"

and why celine wasn't the queen of pop? well we can't really see an impact of Celine on the pop market, maybe she had a memorable single due to titanic movie...but that's it there's no trend created by Celine dion , and about Janet jackson. her peak was probably during Control album or Rhythm Nation 1814 and mariah during music box or Daydream [1993 and 1995]

[JerseyBoy]

agree with you all the way

[vuelve88]

Originally posted by Mecatrónico

this is not an Alanis Vs shakira thread

Alanis also released an album on 2002 that sold 2 million copies in the USA and talking about underperforminf, the last 2 albums of shakira sold way less than Laundry service...

You're wrong. "Under Rug Swept" sold 1 million copies in the USA.
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/ask_b..._id=1001772405

Ask for the 2nd part.... Ummm, maybe you're slow, but you originally compared them. Then I blew away your foolish idea.

As for the last 2 albums from Shakira, they each had less than half the promotion of "Laundry Service", nor did they have consistent single releases (the last 2 singles from "FO Vol. 1" weren't promoted, nor was "Illegal"). The level of promo for "LS" matched its sales. She's not promoting either of these albums extensively so its expected that the sales aren't as high. Still, combined, they have sold an impressive amount (around 7-8 million in 2 years, not too shabby). You well know that had she actually promoted both albums on the level they deserved, together they could have easily matched and surpassed the sales of her "LS" album.

Oh, and that last quote you posted was stupid. Again, they both had their breakthrough album within less than a year of each other. To even think that she copied Alanis's "persona" is pretty stupid and shows lack of an ability to think and use common sense. She was releasing rock songs in 1994, a full YEAR before Alanis and her "JLP" album even existed, so use that noggin and think it through. From the time until the release of the 1996 "Pies Descalzos" album, Shakira was writing music and lyrics and recording her songs. She wasn't simply lounging about waiting for Alanis to arrive so that she could steal her "persona". You're ridiculous, lol.

[Nirvaηa]

Originally posted by Temptation

My Prerogative peaking #4 in the Global Chart (I don't think that is a flop)
Do Somethin' was released in 2005 and it wasn't even released in the States.

Did you forget Me Against the Music, Toxic and Everytime?
All singles from In the Zone went to #1 in the Global Chart.

You said that only because you hate Britney Spears.

I hate her, OK she doesn't deserve the 2004 year, Ashlee was new and she can a lot of things but Britney is old and she win more scandals!

[Marcoxxxo]

Originally posted by Manuelangels

I hate her, OK she doesn't deserve the 2004 year, Ashlee was new and she can a lot of things but Britney is old and she win more scandals!

well after this



and this



theres no way to ashley get thje "queen of pop" tittle and more if her album flopped everywhere but on the States not, also her singles didn't that great and she is only a Hillary duff pt 2 or a wannabe Avril Lavigne..Ashlee did not bring to pop music anything else than shame and bring reality shows of pop stars a joke

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Originally posted by Manuelangels

I hate her, OK she doesn't deserve the 2004 year, Ashlee was new and she can a lot of things but Britney is old and she win more scandals!

Old? She's only 25.

[Marcoxxxo]

ashlee is only 3 years younger than Britney...

[Nirvaηa]

Originally posted by Mecatrónico

well after this



and this



theres no way to ashley get thje "queen of pop" tittle and more if her album flopped everywhere but on the States not, also her singles didn't that great and she is only a Hillary duff pt 2 or a wannabe Avril Lavigne..Ashlee did not bring to pop music anything else than shame and bring reality shows of pop stars a joke

flop Autobiography?? jaja Are U Kidding Me? Autobiogrpahy sold 3 more, and yes she has those scandals but What About Britney? She can sing live?? really?? What About her scandal marriage with Jason Alen Allexander?, and Britney has a reality show that it was really really Newlyweds 2 but I'm forget something her reality was pure failure, well at least Ashlee never has been crazy, and she doesn't shave her hair.

[Nirvaηa]

Originally posted by Temptation

Old? She's only 25.

I'm talking about music career!

[!!!]

Originally posted by Manuelangels

I'm talking about music career!

Britney isn't a one-hit wonder singer. That's why she's still on the business after eight and a half years.

[Nirvaηa]

Originally posted by Temptation

Britney isn't a one-hit wonder singer. That's why she's still on the business after eight and a half years.

Well but she has more years trying than Ashlee.

[!!!]

Originally posted by Manuelangels

Well but she has more years trying than Ashlee.

1999, one year was enough to have a number-one hit around the world and other two singles chart-topping the UWC, selling over 25 million copies with only her debut album. Next year she did it again (2000). During 2001-2002, Britney learnt the word "flop" with most of the singles from Britney even when the album sold very well.
I respect Ashlee Simpson but Britney owned 2004.

[Marcoxxxo]

Originally posted by Manuelangels

flop Autobiography?? jaja Are U Kidding Me? Autobiogrpahy sold 3 more, and yes she has those scandals but What About Britney? She can sing live?? really?? What About her scandal marriage with Jason Alen Allexander?, and Britney has a reality show that it was really really Newlyweds 2 but I'm forget something her reality was pure failure, well at least Ashlee never has been crazy, and she doesn't shave her hair.

god..can you read please?

Autobiography flopped in all over the world but NOT on the STATES which means, Autobiography sold good on USa but not worldwide where the album never peaked or reach great sales...
I mean Britney could had "scandals" but she never got booed as the way that Ashlee was booed in a international show, and better not apply the Britney Lips..because she lips due to the coreography of her performances and she is not a hypocrite as ashlee is... i mean why ashlee needs Lips if she doesnt dance or something like that...
And WTF for the Britney is old?, so in 10 years ashlee will be dead because she is "old" on the music industry... maybe for a 8 years old human 8 years of career its way to much bu for an Adult as i am 8 years are nothing

[Marcoxxxo]

Originally posted by Manuelangels

Well but she has more years trying than Ashlee.

get out let me see

1999
Britney gets a diamond certification because of the sales of BOMT
Britney is nominetaed for the grammys for bets new artist
Britney got 2 number ones worldwide

2000
Britney owns the fastest selling album by a female artist
Britney put another single at 1 worldwide
Britney made one of the most memorable performances on the vma's
2001
Britney releases her third album selling more than 700K in its first week
Britney perform one of the best performance ever on the VMA'01
Britney has sold at this point nearly 40 million albums worldwide and has been nominated 5 times to the grammys and zillion of times to a VMA

ashleee
2004
Ashlee relesases Autobiography and get 3x platinum
Ashlee kill her career due to the lack of credibility as an artist an person
2005
Ashlee releases her no that sucessful second album
2006
Ashlee career is DEAD
Ashee has sold at this point nearly 8 million albums worldwide
And perforom two of the WORST performance since Mini Vanilli

[Exodus]

How is Ashlee Simpson even being considered?

[XTIANLOVESBRITNEY]

Originally posted by Manuelangels

Well but she has more years trying than Ashlee.

Anybody remember the stupid pinoccio-plastic face of Ahlee.

Sorry but the new madonna is Britney... Escandalous-Outrageous-Freak-Beautifu-and with a lot of WORLDWIDE fans..

Maybe ashlee is the new milli vanili.

[Marcoxxxo]

Originally posted by Exodus

How is Ashlee Simpson even being considered?

tell that to the last ashlee simpson Fan Alive