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Poll: More Iconic Career: Lady Gaga vs Beyonce
View Poll Results: More iconic career?
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Lady Gaga
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55.50% |
Beyonce
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44.50% |
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
Bey.
Her achievements>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And whether people want to admit it, DC, is a part of Bey's legacy.
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If we are talking career, then DC is 100% a part of Beyonce's career, unless you're going to try to claim that Beyonce wasn't in DC.
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Originally posted by WhyYouMadTho
1. All of those things are not iconic, except maybe the weird clothing
2. Just because she has sold a bit more does not make her more iconic.
3. There is so much more to Beyonce than SL and you know that, so stop.
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1) the meat dress has been referenced many times in pop culture boo. Wake up and smell the coffee.
2) A bit? If you keep in mind that the album sales climate has significantly gone down since 2003, Gaga has sold a lot more albums WW than Bey solo. Can anyone post that kworb receipt?
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I think a lot of people on this site have forgotten that Beyonce inspired their favs.
But, you know...
She's local or whatever...
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Gaga has one song that impacted pop culture and that's Bad Romance. I'll be generous and add Born this Way on here as well though I don't believe it had the impact she thought it would have.It had backlash instead of impact.
Beyonce has Crazy in Love and Single Ladies. Irreplaceable's catchphrase to the left to the left also impacted pop culture as did Bootylicious. She's had a 15 yr career so it's only fitting that she has more songs that impacted pop culture than Gaga.
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Beyonce was sort of "iconic" at first, but now......
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Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts
Gaga has one song that impacted pop culture and that's Bad Romance. I'll be generous and add Born this Way on here as well though I don't believe it had the impact she thought it would have.It had backlash instead of impact.
Beyonce has Crazy in Love and Single Ladies. Irreplaceable's catchphrase to the left to the left also impacted pop culture as did Bootylicious. She's had a 15 yr career so it's only fitting that she has more songs that impacted pop culture than Gaga.
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I actually think that Bad Romance is less impactful to pop culture than Born this Way.
It's far more iconic and will be used for years to come in self-love, gay-pride ways, whereas Bad Romance was just a big hit.
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Lady Gaga. Beyonce has lost it to me...
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Originally posted by PoisonTV
Beyonce was sort of "iconic" at first, but now......
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But now...
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Originally posted by Jolie's Lips
1) the meat dress has been referenced many times in pop culture boo. Wake up and smell the coffee.
2) A bit? If you keep in mind that the album sales climate has significantly gone down since 2003, Gaga has sold a lot more albums WW than Bey solo. Can anyone post that kworb receipt?
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I'm not knocking the meat dress. Which is why I said except the weird clothing. Her fashion is definitely iconic. But that doesn't make her more iconic. At least Bey didn't have to rely on shock factor. And sales don't make you more iconic, your impact on pop culture does.
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Originally posted by Unapologeticxx
Beyonce has lost it to me...
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She still selling out stadiums and getting acclaim tho.
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Originally posted by swissman
I know Gaga perhaps has done more things that are specifically memorable, but I think the answer is still Beyonce. Here's why:
The way I see it, a "career" is a general term for your work as a whole. You could break it down into specifics, but you're not referring to what your entire work represents, you're referring to individual moments of reference. Beyonce's career as a whole is far more iconic because she very much represents the perfect popstar. She's beautiful, she's talented, she can dance, she's kind, she's likeable, she has a high profile husband, etc. After all, an icon must represent something. It's not just about doing crazy things that stick in your mind. As the lead singer of a girl group to solo superstar, Beyonce's career is one that even Lady Gaga made a goal. She is an icon because she set a standard in her industry. She represents that standard. She may have a combination of obvious influences (MJ, Prince, Diana Ross, Tina Turner) but she has managed to take these influences and create her own iconic brand. There simply is not anyone like Beyonce.
Lady Gaga is without a doubt an icon as well, but as her career is based on re-invention and often shock and surprise, I find that it as a whole is less iconic, but more made up of iconic moments. Her career is very easily that of Madonna and David Bowie. So it doesn't necessarily represent anything in particular except the idea of reinvention, but then Madonna is a bigger icon of that. Also the fact that Gaga has been basically mocking the idea of a popstar since her debut, by doing over-the-top things that represent pop music, she is less an icon of pop music itself, but an icon of the idea of pop music.
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I really like and appreciate this answer.
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I look like I'm attacking people with my posts.
Srry guise.
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Beyoncé. Gaga still has to prove if she can be in the business for a long time and still be successful.
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Originally posted by WhyYouMadTho
I'm not knocking the meat dress. Which is why I said except the weird clothing. Her fashion is definitely iconic. But that doesn't make her more iconic. At least Bey didn't have to rely on shock factor. And sales don't make you more iconic, your impact on pop culture does.
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The biggest female entertainers in history relied on some shock factor. One of the main reasons why Jolie is the actress of our generation is because of shock factor. There isn't anything wrong with controversy; in fact, it makes pop culture more interesting. And lol, sales definitely do matter. In many ways they are the best measurement for impact as well (see Single Ladies, Bey's most impactful song, also being her highest selling digital single)
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Originally posted by Jolie's Lips
The biggest female entertainers in history relied on some shock factor. One of the main reasons why Jolie is the actress of our generation is because of shock factor. There isn't anything wrong with controversy; in fact, it makes pop culture more interesting. And lol, sales definitely do matter. In many ways they are the best measurement for impact as well (see Single Ladies, Bey's most impactful song, also being her highest selling digital single)
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Sales don't matter, but sales do tell their own story. A song that is impactful will sell well, but a song that sells well isn't automatically impactful.
And there was a time when shock factor was less an ingredient in being a successful female entertainer. Judy Garland, Bette Davis, Betty Grable, Rita Hayworth, Audrey Hepburn, Sandra Dee, Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughan, Billie Holiday, Diana Ross, Dionne Warwick, are just a few off the top of my heads.
There isn't anything wrong with shock factor, but it's important to know the difference between being successful for shock and being successful for your own merits. Using your example, Meryl Streep's iconic career will be remembered for her successes vs. Jolie's iconic career being remembered for her successes but mostly her shocking moments.
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i mean if we're talking about the US then beyonce but most people dont know who she is anywhere else so gaga
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Gaga tbh. Gaga could've filled up that Pepsi commercial with actual iconic looks
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Gaga's. Beyonce has done so many things, yet no one really cares because she doesnt take risks or anything. It's literally always the same dance, the same type of song, same outfit....
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Originally posted by jose168
i mean if we're talking about the US then beyonce but most people dont know who she is anywhere else so gaga
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Which is why she's on a successful world tour?
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Originally posted by slobro
Gaga tbh. Gaga could've filled up that Pepsi commercial with actual iconic looks
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It's inevitable that showing up wearing a meat dress is going to be more noticed than jeans and a white tank top, and yet that is an iconic look for Beyonce.
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