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Celeb News: Katie Holmes NOT seeking Public Divorce Trial
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Originally posted by fortheloveofmusic
Can someone please FILL ME IN !!???
Why are people so happy she's divorcing him?
Why are people saying she is "free"
Why are people saying "expose him" and why are people afraid for her safety?
asdnasjdn What the hell is going on was there more to Tom Cruise than what meets the eye?
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Because after Katie married Tom she changed and she stopped working to step in his shadow. She severed ties with friends and family and Tom basically chose her friends. She fired her old management for a manager that worked close with Scientology who out of nowhere was her "best friend". She constantly seemed miserable with him and in Scientology, which is a cult NOT a religion. You can search more about Scientology if you're interested.
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Karen De La Carriere, who was once one of the most powerful executives in Scientology and was married to Heber Jentzsch, Scientology's longtime president who mysteriously hasn't been seen in years. De La Carriere shocked the church by leaving in 2010 and telling secrets in anti-Miscavige blogs -- including her claim that she was kept for six months against her will at the secretive church base camp near Hemet, Calif. "I have no doubt that she’s being tailed by them. It's par for the course. But she had to have planned this very carefully, right down to using disposable cell phones and laptops to throw people off her trail. It had to have been a very cloak-and-dagger operation."
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It is good that she is in the spot light. I need her to make some moves for her career and stay in the spot light, because when it dies down they will come for Katie. I know some of the high ranking members of the cult who are in Texas and they are dangerous as hell.
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A former Scientologist with close ties to members of Cruise's family says his adopted daughter Isabella worked for Holmes at her clothing line, Holmes and Yang, and was abruptly fired about two months ago.
"There was never any trouble between them," says the source. "Bella called Katie ‘Mom.’ She was fired out of the blue and once Katie filed for divorce, it all made sense. This was a carefully planned ambush. Katie didn’t want Bella working for her anymore because she was Tom’s kid."
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This was planned so well.
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Ohhh imagine if she forces Nicole Kidman and his ex wifes to confess some stuff for her defense
This could get good
GO KATIE!!!GO KATIE!!!!
#TEAMKATIE #THUGLIFE #MAJAH
Queen Katie!!
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Give me my life, Katie.
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If Katie is attempting to pull Suri out of Tom's strange world before the girl gets any older, we asked several of our ex-Scientologist sources to explain what, at 6 years old, Suri was about to get into. We talked with them about the oddities of Scientology schooling, and about the religion's form of counseling -- called auditing -- which can begin as young as Suri's age. But what may have convinced Katie to run was the frightening prospect that faces all Scientology kids beginning at 6 years old: a form of interrogation known as "sec checking."
There are many things that set Scientology apart from other organizations. Its "auditing," for example, was developed by founder L. Ron Hubbard when he published Dianetics in 1950. That summer, it became a brief fad in the United States to use Hubbard's technique of counseling to help another person go into a kind of semi-trance and "remember" the experience of their birth. Within a couple of years, Hubbard was encouraging people to go back even farther and remember past lives, and the process was enhanced with the introduction of a device called an "e-meter" that measures skin galvanic reaction. At the same time, Hubbard was building Scientology as a highly regimented, formal organization, and some of the techniques he had developed to counsel people were turning out to be very effective as measures of control.
In 1960, for example, Hubbard introduced a policy of "security checking," called "sec checking" by Scientologists. It involves using the e-meter as an interrogation device, and Hubbard wrote lengthy lists of questions that a member should be asked by an "ethics officer" to make sure they weren't hiding any covert hostilities to the organization. (Although Hubbard died in 1986, his thousands of policies are still iron-clad law in Scientology, and only those policies written by Hubbard himself -- he's still known as "Source" -- can be considered legitimate.)
To this day, Scientologists submit to sec checking when they are suspected of being out of compliance with some policy or other.
Even if they're only six years old.
In 1961, Hubbard developed a policy of security checking children. It's still in effect, and now that Suri is six, she can be subjected to this lengthy interrogation by an ethics officer of the church.
"You get conditioned to tell them everything they want to know," says Marc Headley, who grew up in Scientology but escaped from Int Base in 2005. "It's all just information gathering."
Headley says that between the Scientology concepts introduced in its "study tech" at Scientology school, courses taken at the local org, and the sec checking, "all that stuff is cultural programming, and once it's in place, it's done," he says.
Holmes has had six years to understand how Scientologists are controlled through the use of interrogations, and it would not have been lost on her that children are sec checked in part to gather information about their parents.
"It's a way to 'third party' people -- to find out who is saying derogatory things to others," Headley says. "They're going to find out what's going on. I mean, just read the thing."
Well, here's your chance to read the list of questions that L. Ron Hubbard came up with in 1961, and that to this day is used to interrogate the children of Scientologists, including the older children of Tom Cruise when they were this age, Headley tells me.
Read the list, and it should become clear why Katie Holmes wanted nothing to do with it for Suri.
SECURITY CHECK CHILDREN
HCO WW Security Form 8
The following is a processing check for use on children.
Be sure the child can understand the question. Rephrase it so he or she can understand it. The first question is the most potent.
Children's Security Check
Ages 6--12
What has somebody told you not to tell?
Have you ever decided you did not like some member of your family?
Have you ever taken something belonging to somebody else and never given it back?
Have you ever pretended to be sick (ill)?
Have you ever made yourself sick (ill), or hurt yourself to make somebody sorry?
Have you ever wanted something very much, but never told anybody about it?
Have you ever gotten yourself dirty on purpose?
Have you ever refused to eat just to worry someone?
Have you ever remembered something about yourself and not told anybody, because you thought they wouldn't believe you, or be angry at you?
Have you ever refused to obey an order from someone you should obey?
Have you ever told another child something that wasn't true, just to frighten or upset him?
Have you ever bullied a smaller child?
Have you ever deliberately got another child, or a grown-up, into trouble?
Have you ever pestered older children, or grown people, who were trying to work?
Have you ever been mean, or cruel, to an animal, bird or fish?
Have you ever forgotten to give food or water to a pet entrusted to your care?
Have you ever broken something belonging to someone else?
Have you ever deliberately spoiled clothing of yours because you didn't like it?
Do you have a secret?
Have you ever noticed something wrong with your body that you were afraid to tell anybody about?
Have you ever done anything you were very much ashamed of?
Is there anything about you your parents could not understand, even if you told them?
Have you ever failed to finish your schoolwork on time?
Have you ever flunked an examination at school?
Have you ever deliberately given a teacher trouble?
Have you ever tried to make others dislike some teacher?
Have you ever tried to make another child unpopular?
Have you ever broken, damaged, or taken, any school property?
Have you ever lied to a teacher?
Have you ever been late to school, or late to a class?
Have you ever stayed away from school, when you could have gone?
Have you ever cheated by copying someone else's work, taking notes into an examination, or looking up answers in a book when you weren't supposed to?
Have you ever spoiled things for somebody?
Who have you made guilty?
Have you ever done something you shouldn't when you were supposed to be in bed or asleep?
Have you ever told others bad stories about someone?
Have you ever tried to make others believe that your parents, or teachers, were cruel to you?
Have you ever offered as an excuse for something you have done wrong that you are only a child, or that you haven't grown up yet?
Have you ever felt that your parents and home were too good for you?
Have you ever felt that your parents and home weren't good enough for you?
Is there anything you should tell your parents, and never have?
Have you ever done something to your body that you shouldn't have?
Have you ever done anything to someone else's body that you shouldn't have?
Have you ever told anyone that you did something, when you hadn't really done it?
Have you ever told anyone that you hadn't done something which you really had done?
Have you ever ganged up on another child and made fun of him because he was different from the rest of you?
Have you ever made fun of another because of the way he looked?
Have you ever decided never to talk to someone again?
Have you ever made your parents or teachers work harder than they should?
Have you ever decided that you were too bright, or too smart for the other kids?
Have you ever annoyed an adult by something you did or said?
Have you ever hurt a child?
Have you ever made a child cry?
Have you ever made a child sulk?
Have you ever kept another child from having something that really belonged to him?
Have you ever found anything and failed to return it to its owner?
Have you ever told stories about someone behind their back?
Have you ever lied to escape blame?
Have you ever not told the whole truth about something so as to protect someone?
Have you ever felt ashamed of your parents?
Have you ever felt ashamed of your friends?
Have you ever disappointed your parents?
Have you ever run away when you should have stayed?
Have you ever felt sure your parents wouldn't understand something that had happened in school, so you didn't tell them?
Have you ever not told teachers something about your family because they wouldn't understand it?
Have you ever failed to keep another child's secret?
Have you ever felt it was just no use talking to someone?
Have you ever hurt someone you didn't mean to?
Have you ever been sloppy about your clothes or possessions?
Have you ever cried when you shouldn't have?
Have you ever been a coward?
Have you ever made too much fuss over a little hurt?
Have you ever tried to make your parents believe you were doing better in school than you were?
Have you ever told on anyone?
Have you ever teased younger children?
Have you ever made a mess and not helped to clean it up?
Have you ever broken or damaged something and never told anybody it was you who did it?
Have you ever let someone else get punished for something you did?
Have you ever cried till you got your own way?
Have you ever decided "Someday, when I'm grown up, I'll get even"? If so, with whom?
Have you ever picked on someone smaller than yourself?
Have you ever upset anyone by throwing a temper tantrum?
Have you ever hurt anyone by telling them you didn't love them any more?
Have you ever made out that you were more badly damaged than you were in order to make someone stop picking on you?
Have you ever pretended to like someone that you didn't like in order to satisfy your parents?
Have you ever done anything wrong according to your own religion?
Have you ever not understood why someone was angry with you?
Have you ever pretended not to understand what you had done wrong?
Have you ever pretended not to understand what someone wanted you to do?
Have you ever been in places where your parents didn't want you to go?
Have you ever spied on anyone?
Have you ever made friends with people your parents didn't approve of?
Have you ever thought someone was crazy?
Have you ever broken up a friendship?
Have you ever let your team, or school, or club down?
Have you ever tried to keep someone from making friends with another child?
Have you ever pretended not to hear your parents or teacher?
Have you ever made a fuss about doing something that your parents or teacher wanted you to do?
Have you ever done something to someone that you'd hate to have done to you?
L. RON HUBBARD
Founder
Hubbard, L. R. (1961, 21 September). Security Check Children. The Technical Bulletins of Dianetics and Scientology. (1991 ed., Vol. VI, pp. 290-5). Los Angeles: Bridge Publications, Inc.
It's disturbing stuff, especially when you picture a child of Suri's age holding the sensors of an e-meter, being interrogated by an adult determined to have her confess her transgressions.
I asked Headley what a child would have to do in order to be subjected to this treatment.
"A tantrum. Or really, anything non-optimum," he said.
Frightening. No wonder Katie wants nothing to do with it.
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It's scary to think of grown men interrogating little children like that.
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But what if this is all to expose Tom's, ahem... sexuality?
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My work colleague told me she worried about that cult following her around. She gotta hire some security, get her kid and hop on a flight and FLY.
How he gonna make her give childbirth in silence too? *smh* be ready to expose this cult Ms.Holmes. But be wary of your safety, we don't want another Dianna on our hands
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I'ma need Katie to get a bunch of acting gigs to protect herself i don't want her to disappear and ****
It's a good time for that Dawson Creek reunion!!
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Was Tom Cruise always like this? Why is Nicole Kidman still sane?
Oprah's ass was so naive
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Yass Katie EXPOSE HIM!
She is such a bad bitch for taking on the Scientolgists. Hopefully Suri will stay out of that cult.
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Freshly churned freedom
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Wait if u betray the Scientology cult they will want to get rid of u ? ajndajdsnsd
This is scary
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Originally posted by fortheloveofmusic
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Oprah KNEW from the get go that it was all fake, she was just playing along, I mean, the woman has some experience in the 'hide your sexuality' dept. herself
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Originally posted by fortheloveofmusic
Wait if u betray the Scientology cult they will want to get rid of u ? ajndajdsnsd
This is scary
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Yes, because you are a liability to their secrets and inner workings. It's the same way with gangs. It is so sad
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BITCH, YOU BETTER WERK! I want her to take no prisoners with this divorce case because Scientology ain't nothing to work with. BRAVO!
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Currently browsing: 24 members (Swag, Lovatomite, geo, shanners, ExclamationMarks, MikeFenty, Scherzy, Tomas_Lajza, toyboy+, Guernica, -Lewymocha-, kgeezy310+, ManDown, notegeek, WhyYouMadTho, Dominic), 44 guests.
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I wonder how many of the guests are scientologists. They are highly organized and are monitoring the media as they are currently working on a way to save Tom's image.
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Originally posted by fortheloveofmusic
Wait if u betray the Scientology cult they will want to get rid of u ? ajndajdsnsd
This is scary
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They're commonly compared to the mafia
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