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Single: Kelly Clarkson - "I Forgive You"
Member Since: 6/25/2008
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Do people even know how radio works this days?
I mean, Dark Side is the type of song that will sattle at Top 20 on Pop radios and Top 10 on Hot AC at best case.
Side note - I would love to be proved wrong and getting DS as a single and watch it explode, anything can happen I'm just saying what I think will happen if it will be released.
Buttom line, I want her to be successful and if the 3rd single flops, all of what Stronger is achiving now will go to waste and the momentom will be gone, this is the make it or break it single.
They should go with a safe but edgy single like Let Me Down.
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Member Since: 3/18/2008
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Originally posted by NickLacheyFan
Do people even know how radio works this days?
I mean, Dark Side is the type of song to sattle at Top 20 on Pop radios and Top 10 on Hot AC at best case.
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Kelly could change that with Dark Side
i dunno, i just can see it doing good on the charts...given the right promo...Stronger is doing great with the barely there promo, but Dark Side would FOR SURE need great promo and an amazing video to really do great...i also love that its not her typical breakup song, ANYONE can relate....
i guess we will just can agree to disagree about Dark Side being a single...but at least we BOTH agree that I Forgive You SHOULDNT be the third single
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Member Since: 10/15/2011
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The radio-friendliness of Dark Side is so mind-numbingly clear to me it boggles my mind that others don't hear it that way Especially when paired with WDKY. These two songs go hand in hand production-wise.
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Member Since: 7/22/2010
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I love the idea of I Forgive You as a single. I think it could be huge
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Member Since: 9/24/2011
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sober is a ballad, dark side is not it is up tempo. but safest would be let me down and i forgive you. then dark side.
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I need an official word from someone so we will stop argueing and be a good fans and start supporting.
Anyways, just for the record, Let Me Down have been getting pop spins for a while no, ever since it leaked and even after it's been floating around waiting to hit the airways.
They should go for it!
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Member Since: 9/24/2011
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Originally posted by NickLacheyFan
I need an official word from someone so we will stop argueing and be a good fans and start supporting.
Anyways, just for the record, Let Me Down have been getting pop spins for a while no, ever since it leaked and even after it's been floating around waiting to hit the airways.
They should go for it!
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i think it has the catchiest hook and explosive chorus. i dont know i forgive you sounds idnhu just better but i hope theyre right. i dont want this era to end in number 3
some saying that we need to talk about wdky first but that single is going to smash and has the big chance to go number 1.
next problem is single number 3 is it really true? IFY? i feel bad because this album comes close to breakway in terms of success potentially in sales.
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IFY is kinda IDHU but better, still it's a midcore single while LMD is radio friendly yet can smash way harder.
They need to do some promo soon though, album sales are steady and all but promo will help her go platinum faster.
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Member Since: 9/24/2011
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a comment in one of the blogs i read:
'I Forgive You' could possibly be a hit. It's very typical radio-friendly pop/rock, but it doesn't really have much substance. Radio listeners would be able to jam along with it in their cars and stuff, which is a plus. And it's sure to be a hit among teenage girls. If they are looking for commercial success, then 'I Forgive You' would probably provide that. But Dark Side is an all around better song and would be a better choice in my opinion. It has this cool indie vibe with one of those catchy pop/rock choruses that Kelly does so well. However, it's a bit different than her normal stuff so I'm not sure how the mainstream industry would take it. It's a risky choice, but it could become a big hit and show Kelly's versatility, giving her a whole new pool of fans.
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Originally posted by supertiffany
sober is a ballad, dark side is not it is up tempo. but safest would be let me down and i forgive you. then dark side.
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If a song like gaga the edge of glory can do well on pop, ds can as well. Both song have similar vibes. Both have a slightly darker feel to it and both of their chorus are up tempo. Their lyrics are ballad like too. So yeah here u go. I'm not saying ify won't smash. But that song is pure generic. I think it will still do well in the end but ds may do much better!
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Originally posted by esteee12
If a song like gaga the edge of glory can do well on pop, ds can as well. Both song have similar vibes. Both have a slightly darker feel to it and both of their chorus are up tempo. Their lyrics are ballad like too. So yeah here u go. I'm not saying ify won't smash. But that song is pure generic. I think it will still do well in the end but ds may do much better!
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i think IFY is the safest choic even though it is generic it will appeal to most of the pop fans compared to dark side i can imagine them singing ify, putting it as a tweet or facebook status, dark side's singles are deep and may turn some pop fans away. and also ify is the strongest in terms of radio play.
now i get rca they dont act like fans and release ds instead they acted like one of the normal pop fans and general public and ify is the catchiest and most pop song. then the 4th single i bet it would be the war is over. im getting this one producer get a single theory.
i forgive you will smash it just that we fans prefer dark side and you love me which are the risky ones in terms of radio.
in the end i still think i forgive you is the most radio friendly
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Member Since: 10/27/2010
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Originally posted by NickLacheyFan
We're on the same page about everything
People need to STOP with Dark Side.
DO you care about yourself or about Kelly?
I mean, releasing DS is like when they released Sober from MD, that song, it was 1000000 times better than DS and it flopped hard, doesn't matter even why.
DS is not as half good as Sober and trust me, if it will be released, it will bomb just like Sober did.
I don't see why it's worth the risk, 5th single at best if anything.
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Oh pls. I'm pretty sure everyone here could admit that sober flopped because it's too slow for radio. And don't forget, never again was her previous sIngle and the song was released for a few weeks before radio just suddenly stop playing it.what I'm trying to say is na some how contributed to the fact that sober flopped hard in the end since radio listeners lost all interest on her during the md era.
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Originally posted by esteee12
Oh pls. I'm pretty sure everyone here could admit that sober flopped because it's too slow for radio. And don't forget, never again was her previous sIngle and the song was released for a few weeks before radio just suddenly stop playing it.what I'm trying to say is na some how contributed to the fact that sober flopped hard in the end since radio listeners lost all interest on her during the md era.
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I've said this on the KCE and I'll say it here. I TRULY believe Sober was sabotaged. Kiss108 in Boston played Sober one or two times and the next day it made their Top 5 most requested countdown at noon. It then made the Top 7 countdown in the evening and that was the last time it was ever played. You're going to tell me a song that was clearly being requested will not get more spins or be played ever again on that same station? Please. Something totally shady went on with My December. And to not even attempt to promote Sober or release anything else? Don't get me started. Lol
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today, the more generic the songs are the more it will smash dark side is the complete opposite
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Member Since: 10/27/2010
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Originally posted by supertiffany
i think IFY is the safest choic even though it is generic it will appeal to most of the pop fans compared to dark side i can imagine them singing ify, putting it as a tweet or facebook status, dark side's singles are deep and may turn some pop fans away. and also ify is the strongest in terms of radio play.
now i get rca they dont act like fans and release ds instead they acted like one of the normal pop fans and general public and ify is the catchiest and most pop song. then the 4th single i bet it would be the war is over. im getting this one producer get a single theory.
i forgive you will smash it just that we fans prefer dark side and you love me which are the risky ones in terms of radio.
in the end i still think i forgive you is the most radio friendly
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Well, personally I just feel that being an artist is much more than being appealing to the people and radio listeners. Releasing a generic track like ify would most probably smash but so what?
Everybody is doing that and it worked and I just find that there isn't any artistic growth at all.
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Sounds like everything else she's released.
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Originally posted by esteee12
Oh pls. I'm pretty sure everyone here could admit that sober flopped because it's too slow for radio. And don't forget, never again was her previous sIngle and the song was released for a few weeks before radio just suddenly stop playing it.what I'm trying to say is na some how contributed to the fact that sober flopped hard in the end since radio listeners lost all interest on her during the md era.
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Originally posted by MJ0497
I've said this on the KCE and I'll say it here. I TRULY believe Sober was sabotaged. Kiss108 in Boston played Sober one or two times and the next day it made their Top 5 most requested countdown at noon. It then made the Top 7 countdown in the evening and that was the last time it was ever played. You're going to tell me a song that was clearly being requested will not get more spins or be played ever again on that same station? Please. Something totally shady went on with My December. And to not even attempt to promote Sober or release anything else? Don't get me started. Lol
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I agree my december was sabotaged by its own team it wasnt supported well by the label but past is past so lets move on to ify
it will do great im liking it now. its catchy and instant earworm
but as i stan i prefer dark side and let me down but those are riskier in pop radio by the way.
also they need to release a summer single maybe rca will release dark side as 4th so dont worry.
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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I can't at the people who think Dark Side would flop but Let Me Down is a surefire hit. The delusion
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Member Since: 9/24/2011
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Originally posted by esteee12
Well, personally I just feel that being an artist is much more than being appealing to the people and radio listeners. Releasing a generic track like ify would most probably smash but so what?
Everybody is doing that and it worked and I just find that there isn't any artistic growth at all.
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i dont know labels care only about sales right? but atleast it will attract album buyers of the album dont worry i think dark side would be a 4th single perfect for autumn and winter release but for now summer single the perfect choice is ify
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Member Since: 3/18/2008
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Originally posted by esteee12
Well, personally I just feel that being an artist is much more than being appealing to the people and radio listeners. Releasing a generic track like ify would most probably smash but so what?
Everybody is doing that and it worked and I just find that there isn't any artistic growth at all.
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i agree to a certain extent with this...
now if Kelly was a new artist, i could be ok with her releasing IFY, but my appeal to Kelly is that she doesn't tend to follow the crowd, she likes to go her own route....She's already released her first safe song with Stronger...i dont need to safe songs back to back...(although Stronger totally ***** on IFY, its also really safe)
if IFY is released, i feel it was more of a label choice then Kelly's...
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