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ATRL: Has Katy Perry's Success This Era Been Well Deserved?
Member Since: 9/3/2011
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Originally posted by FxckAlejandro
Yeah I know, but my comment was regarding the thread's title of whether Katy deserved the success that she got this era, and I said that she didn't because she just puts out these messy remixes w/the likes of Missy + B.O.B to get extra spins on different radio formats that wouldn't have normally played a pop song.
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Receipts? I don't know of such a station?
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by Katy.Kat.23
Fixed.
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Done.
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Member Since: 2/16/2010
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
Throwing her records at me just further proves my point.
The question is, is all this success deserved, or is it mainly because of her label / producers / radio ect.
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A label gets artists to perform but it's up to the artist to perform well.
Producers give hot beats but it's up to the artist to sing and/or make the verses, bridge & chorus,
Labels send songs to radio but if radio is playing the song 24/7, that means they like the artist's songs.
No matter what, it all comes down to her, so it's deserved success.
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Member Since: 10/14/2011
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Hmm. I think she deserve the success that she getting however I don't think she deserves to be up there with the greats (MJ). I despise discounts. Even though it's good for the consumers it still kinda tarnishes the celebs name a bit.
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Member Since: 10/10/2011
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Member Since: 3/15/2011
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
You can't deny how successful each and ever single was.
Firework is the ONLY 3rd single (or older) to be certified 5X Plat
ET is the only 4th single to be certified 4X
And When Last Friday Night hits 3X, it will be the only 5th single to do that.
SUCK IT HATERS.
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WTF? I could list over 40 songs with more than 3 million sales.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/24/2011
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Member Since: 9/2/2011
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Originally posted by Katy V.!
I can't at people saying she does "minimal" promotion
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What promo has she done for TOTGA apart from premiering her video on Ellen and putting out that embarrasing remix with B.O.B, or LFN...the only promo there was for that was that Kathy Beth Terry Twitter account and her posting iTunes links on her Twitter every Friday along with the same message of 'TGIF'
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Member Since: 2/16/2010
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My personal opinion is that everyone is being ridiculous & exaggerating. Discounts in a digital market are SMART, & make her label consumer-minded. Items go on sale at department stores all the time, do we get mad if a vacuum goes on a 20% sale at Sears? No. But we're still more likely to buy it. So TOTGA's current peak is well-deserved.
However, I don't like the remixes, but more because Katy's remixes are lazy, hardly change anything about the original & feature horrible guest verses. All they do is put in a new "hip-hop" beat for 30-60 seconds & then say "look, it's a NEW remix". Then the rest is exactly the same. At least other remixes this year were more exciting & featured some cool new beats & verses & differed from the original at least a bit more. Plus, to remix singles THREE times consecutively is way too much IMO.
But with everyone else (discounts, performances, etc.), they can stay pressed that Katy & Capitol are doing THEIR JOB.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by hausofgarret
True, but the first four were nothing more than pure radio friendly, glittery dance numbers. Their success came from being "catchy" and not much more.
The question was whether or not her success is "deserved", in my opinion it's not.
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First of all, TD and ET (maybe even Firework) weren't "glittery dance numbers". Sure they were catchy, but almost all singles that ever go in the top 10 of the Hot 100 are catchy to some point.
Plus, catchy dance songs are by far not guaranteed a #1 spot, let alone a 4x plat certification. Look at Ke$h's and Gaga's discography.
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Member Since: 3/15/2011
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Would a fat Katy Perry sell?
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
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how can somebody not deserve success? wut even. just because Katy isn't as talented as your fav doesn't mean she isn't as deserving of success as everybody else. Blame the public for letting her smash so hard, blame her record label for releasing hit singles. I mean seriously, to say she doesn't deserve success is if she forced all those 23m people to buy her songs. Let's get real now.
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Member Since: 8/24/2011
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Originally posted by FxckAlejandro
What promo has she done for TOTGA apart from premiering her video on Ellen and putting out that embarrasing remix with B.O.B, or LFN...the only promo there was for that was that Kathy Beth Terry Twitter account and her posting iTunes links on her Twitter every Friday along with the same message of 'TGIF'
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you forgot to add to that list
X-Factor UK performance
AMA performance
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
WTF? I could list over 40 songs with more than 3 million sales.
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That are 5th singles, that aren't apart of a special edition of re-release? If so I apologize.
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Member Since: 10/10/2011
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
Would a fat Katy Perry sell?
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You and your weird questions again.
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Member Since: 5/5/2011
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
Would a fat Katy Perry sell?
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Why would someone care about what someone looks like, when they listen to their songs?
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Member Since: 10/17/2011
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
You can't deny how successful each and ever single was.
69 consecutive weeks in the top 10 on the Hot 100.
71 consecutive weeks in the top 10 on the Pop songs.
Most #1s in Canada.
Tied for 8th most #1s in New Zeal (has the shortest career on the list)
Firework is one of the only 3rd singles to win Video Of The Year.
She's the only artist to have 3 #1s in two consecutive calendar years.
Most #1s on Dance Club songs from one album.
Most #1s on Adult Pop songs from one album.
Most #1s Pop songs from one album.
Most #1s in Digital songs from one album.
Most #1s on the Hot 100 from one album by a female artist.
Only artist to have four different music videos to be nominated in on VMA session.
First artist to ever have 3 songs (Hot N Cold, California Gurls and Firework) sell over 5,000,000 digital copies in the USA
Teenage Dream" gets the record for the biggest additions to the radio in a week, 64 were new addition
Only artist in history to sell over 300,000 copies in one week with four different songs;
Califronia Gurls broke the spin record, than ET did it, finally Last Friday Night did it too.
The only artist who has five songs with more than 4 million copies sol
It's the only singer to have two albums on the Billboard list, THE albums that sold more singles in the digital age both in the Top 10; "Teenage Dream" at number two with 21.1 million singles sold and "One of the Boys" at number ten with 12.1 million singles sold
Firework is the ONLY 3rd single (or older) to be certified 5X Plat
ET is the only 4th single to be certified 4X
And When Last Friday Night hits 3X, it will be the only 5th single to do that.
^I'm not including re-releases.
Plus, LFN and TOTGA performed miraculously without the remix(es).
The album may not have sold so much, but it has had impressive longevity.
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Somebody did their research
i mean honestly no hate on Katy because I love her and I like her music, but here's the thing, you would expect all of her singles hit Top 10, maybe Top 5, that's what I expected obviously, but ALL of them hitting #1? (that is if TOTGA hits #1) that's what leaves people with a question mark
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Member Since: 1/12/2011
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
Would a fat Katy Perry sell?
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You've said this same thing before. Move on. None these pop girls would sell if they were fat.
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Member Since: 3/15/2011
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Why would someone care about what someone looks like, when they listen to their songs?
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Ask Kelly Clarkson...
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