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Discussion: Is Santa Claus just a gimmick ?
Member Since: 9/11/2010
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Originally posted by J a y
A man named Jesus, yes fine.
A man named Nicholas, yes fine.
Both the Lord Jesus Christ and Santa Claus however aren't as factual as Einstein, Hitler or Osama
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This. Read my above post; he was real, but he wasn't some kind of lord.
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Member Since: 5/5/2011
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Originally posted by JonnyϟLightning
So this is just a thread created by an atheist to bash Christmas?
It seems you're not getting any presents this year, so I'll send you one.
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Bashing christmas ? Christmas is not about Santa Clause but about the birth of Jesus Christ which in I believe. There is no such thing as a santa clause.
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Member Since: 1/12/2011
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Originally posted by Venus
And at Spit bashing people's religions like this.
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He's not bashing any religion.
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Originally posted by Blueberry Kisses
He was real. Jesus was an actual person. Granted, his actual birthday was in April, and his real name was Joshua (pronounced: Yo-shoe-a). And he was a Jew. But he was an actual historical figure that was turned into a canonical hero with the translations of the bible over time.
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There were several men named Jesus during that time period. I'm talking about actually believing he's the son of God.
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Member Since: 8/23/2010
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Quote:
Originally posted by J a y
A man named Jesus, yes fine.
A man named Nicholas, yes fine.
Both the Lord Jesus Christ and Santa Claus however aren't as factual as Einstein, Hitler or Osama
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Guys learn how to read. I've never said it was the son of God or Santa Claus was facts, actually I said the opposite. But he refuted the fact that Jesus was real and existed and I reply to that.
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Member Since: 12/17/2010
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Originally posted by KevinKDC
Bashing christmas ? Christmas is not about Santa Clause but about the birth of Jesus Christ which in I believe. There is no such thing as a santa clause.
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But this is where you're wrong.
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Member Since: 12/17/2010
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Originally posted by crumprKID
He's not bashing any religion.
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He's laughing at Christianity, so, yes, he is bashing religions.
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Member Since: 10/28/2009
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Originally posted by KevinKDC
You say it like it's a fact
How is Jesus a gimmick when christmas is about his birth ? lol I don't get that.
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Jesus wasn't born on December 25th so the celebration of his birth is indeed a gimmick to cover up the pagan origins of Christmas, just like you believe Santa covers up the Christian meaning behind Christmas.
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Member Since: 1/12/2011
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What kinda discussion is this though? Santa is for little kids to look up to and fantasize about. Is there anything wrong about that? Does anything really need to be discussed?
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
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Christmas, like the Christian religion, is a mash up other religions. It is the Lady Gaga of religion
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Member Since: 2/16/2010
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Originally posted by BnPac
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http://www.snopes.com/holidays/chris...a/cocacola.asp
According to this, Coca-Cola just helped make his image what it is today.
Anyway, you have the right to make this thread, but you couldn't have picked a worse evening to make it. There's nothing wrong with Santa, because he is a symbol of human kindness & giving. And he doesn't distract from Christmas being Jesus's birth & it's not like the media can talk about Christmas in a religious sense.
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Member Since: 5/5/2011
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Originally posted by Venus
But this is where you're wrong.
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How am I wrong ?
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Christmas or Christmas Day (Old English: Crīstesmęsse, literally "Christ's mass") is an annual commemoration of the birth of Jesus Christ,[5][6] celebrated generally on December 25 as a religious and cultural holiday by billions of people around the world. A feast central to the Christian liturgical year, it closes the Advent season and initiates the twelve days of Christmastide.Christmas is a civil holiday in many of the world's nations, mis celebrated by an increasing number of non-Christians, and is an integral part of the Christmas and holiday season.
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Originally posted by JonnyϟLightning
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Okay, and?! what the **** does that prove. Because it's in the bible that makes it true? the bible is full of lies and consistent contradictions. You posting that means nothing.
There's a talking snake in the bible, that alone says enough.
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Member Since: 10/28/2009
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Originally posted by KevinKDC
There is no such thing as a santa clause.
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Member Since: 8/23/2010
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
So you believe Jesus is/was real?
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
And umm, Einstein, Hitler & Osama were actual real people with significant evidence proving that. There is no evidence supporting Jesus was/is real. Not sure what you're even on about but okay.
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
lol what? Santa Claus, much like Jesus, was created by men to give a sense of hope and faith. Jesus is to adults to what Santa is for kids. I suppose both are gimmicks, neither really exist.
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
There were several men named Jesus during that time period. I'm talking about actually believing he's the son of God.
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No that is not what you said. Don't try to change your words now.
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Member Since: 12/28/2010
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It is actually quite interesting. People seem to forget that Christmas is all about Jesus Christ. This is HIS birth date, and that's what we're "celebrating". I do think that Santa Claus was created for kids, the real problem is that when we're little kids we think is all about Santa Claus and as we grow up and whe stop believing in him then Christmas is all about presents because we never learned the true meaning. If you don't believe in Christ that's your problem, but you cannot change that this Holiday is all about him and that's a fact.
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Member Since: 9/11/2010
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
There were several men named Jesus during that time period. I'm talking about actually believing he's the son of God.
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The Jesus that the Bible refers to was a Jewish prophet who went about teaching people the word of God. He was real, he is the person that the Bible is referring to. He was an actual person, he was actually crucified. His holiness/relationship to God is the only debatable aspect of his existence. Whether you believe he performed miracles or not is up to you.
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Originally posted by Venus
He's laughing at Christianity, so, yes, he is bashing religions.
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I was more so laughing at him comparing Jesus to Einstein, Hitler & Osama.
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Member Since: 9/14/2010
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I believe in the version of that a man named Nicholas helped the poor children, slaves or whatever you wish to believe they were, by gifting them presents, was named a "Saint" for his good will, and the story started from there.
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