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Discussion: Are You Pro Life or Pro Choice?
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Originally posted by Auraeolus
Rape is not excuse for an abortion. That child is a part of you so unless you want to be judged by your parent's actions, I find no legitimate excuse that you should associate your baby to have it's fathers tendencies. It is an innocent human being deserves the right to live.
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So, imagine the girl never wanted to have a baby, ever. Are you going to thrust this baby upon her and say, "Well, bitch, it's your fault you got raped. Deal with it and the consequences."? That's ridiculous.
The girl never wanted to get raped (that's why it's rape...), and she sure as Hell never intended to have a baby due to it, or have a baby at all. It's not fair to her to have to go through with it, or to get judged or anything by the people around her.
Having an abortion because of getting pregnant due to rape isn't immediately associating the baby to have its father's tendencies. It's just that the woman never wanted a baby. It's just not fair to her about it.
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Member Since: 10/5/2010
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
And in turn make the child endure a life with low quality? Really?
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There is always adoption.
But why is a person gonna have unprotected sex and not want a child. If they get pregnant and what comes to mind immediatly is abortion than that's just sick. If you know you can't handle a kid and if you know you don't want a kid, use protection. Nobody's pressuring them to not have protection.
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Member Since: 12/9/2007
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Originally posted by Bea.
I personally would not have an abortion if it was an accident with my boyfriend, in my opinion if you feel that you are old and responsible enough to be having sex then you should be prepared to deal with the possibility that it will create a child. I know not everyone thinks like that though.
My issue is with girls getting an abortion a year because they can't keep their legs closed and are too trashy to use a condom or go on BC.
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If it were an accident, I don't think a woman should have to carry the baby as "punishment" for what happened. Sometimes condoms break, so as careful as you're being, **** can go wrong, and I don't think a woman should have to give birth because of it.
And I'm not sure how many women get abortions every year because their snatch is in use all the time, but I would like to believe that that doesn't happen too often.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by ManDown
Exactly! They are forced to live their lives jumping from home to home, never truly feeling a sense of love and security.
Another reason that I support pro choice:
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Well there are many cases where the soon-to-be biological mother is able to choose a family for her child.
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Member Since: 6/16/2010
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
Unless under specific circumstances, I don't think I would ever consider abortion. If I didn't want to keep the child that I was impregnated with, I'd consider adoption instead. But I'm still in support of abortion because I don't think it's fair for the government to dictate whether or not a woman aborts her pregnancy.
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A friend of mine got pregnant recently, she was with her boyfriend and is 21 but she didn't feel that she could give the baby a decent life and she was dead-set on adoption, choosing families and everything. Then she heard the babys heartbeat and that was the end of it, all her ideas completely changed.
So really, we never know until we are in that position ourselves.
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Member Since: 5/14/2011
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If you do something wrong in school, then you made the decision to go to detention.
If you have sex, then you have made the decision of possibly having a baby.
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Member Since: 5/17/2010
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Originally posted by Bea.
I don't mean this in an offensive way to any of the men here but I don't know if any of you can really understand this. You just never know what you would do unless you were in the situation yourself. And I seriously doubt most men on here will ever get a girl pregnant.
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Exactly.
The only person who should have an opinion on whether or not a woman should keep a child is the father of the child.
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Originally posted by GabeEd
There is always adoption.
But why is a person gonna have unprotected sex and not want a child. If they get pregnant and what comes to mind immediatly is abortion than that's just sick. If you know you can't handle a kid and if you know you don't want a kid, use protection. Nobody's pressuring them to not have protection.
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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Originally posted by Bea.
What if the baby has a deformity? An incurable genetic disease like hutchinsons? Is it fair to let a child be born when you know it is going to have terrible quality of life or worse. Some babys have deformities resulting in organs being on the outside of the body...how is it fair to let that baby be born? To put the Mother through labor only to birth a child that will die outside of the womb.
Every case is different.
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Every case is indeed different and if chances of the baby dying of some birth defect or illness are high then it may be the right thing to do but in those that can survive, give them to some parents who can care for them.
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Here's an idea for all of you saying pro-life because "she knew she would have to deal with it":
What if she got pregnant due to a failed contraceptive?
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Pro choice. The fetus is terminated before it even knows what life is. It's the mother's decision, and only the mother's.
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Member Since: 5/17/2010
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Originally posted by Auraeolus
I'm pro choice only if the fetus is causing harm to the mother. If it developed a little bit, it will feel HORRIBLE pain when you murder it. I'm not against the morning after pill though. If you aren't financially stable to feel comfortable about having a baby , you shouldn't have opened your legs in the first place and you can give it up for adoption anyway.
Rape is not excuse for an abortion. That child is a part of you so unless you want to be judged by your parent's actions, I find no legitimate excuse that you should associate your baby to have it's fathers tendencies. It is an innocent human being deserves the right to live.
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Member Since: 6/16/2010
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Originally posted by GRADUAT10N
If it were an accident, I don't think a woman should have to carry the baby as "punishment" for what happened. Sometimes condoms break, so as careful as you're being, **** can go wrong, and I don't think a woman should have to give birth because of it.
And I'm not sure how many women get abortions every year because their snatch is in use all the time, but I would like to believe that that doesn't happen too often.
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In my opinion women should not be having sex at extremely young ages, nor should they be sleeping with people they are not dating and do not care about. It's what causes ****** situations like that.
However my opinions are my own and I won't dictate what people do with their own sex lives. But it is a big part of the problem here.
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Originally posted by IfICannot Love♥
Here's an idea for all of you saying pro-life because "she knew she would have to deal with it":
What if she got pregnant due to a failed contraceptive?
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Pretty much everyone has mentioned that
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Originally posted by ManDown
This may sound incredibly insensitive, but if I was a female and I became pregnant under the age of 18, I would likely have an abortion. Why should I have to spend the rest of my life raising a child when I'm not physically or psychologically prepared? Adoptions is always an option, yes, but I don't think it's unfair to say that somebody should be forced to carry an unwanted child for 9 months, just so that child can be given away to a strange family. I have heard, though, from many of my pregnant friends and family members that your views on abortion change when you become pregnant. I remember several of my friends saying that they would have an abortion if they became pregnant within a certain time frame, but once it actually happened, they were too excited about becoming a mother. So, I don't know. I think that the option should be available to pregnant women. Who are we, as men, to judge somebody for something that we will never experience?
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I agree.
If you're continuously having unprotected sex, and then getting an abortion because you're too lazy to wear a condom, then I don't think it's right, because you should learn from the first...even the second time, to use protection. But, if you're dumb enough to refuse to wear condoms or use birth control each time you have sex, then you're probably too dumb to raise a child.
If you aren't mentally, physically, or financially ready to have a child, then you shouldn't. At the end of the day, the child will end up suffering. Yeah, there's always adoptions, but I've heard countless terrible adoption stories that break my heart.
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Originally posted by IfICannot Love♥
Here's an idea for all of you saying pro-life because "she knew she would have to deal with it":
What if she got pregnant due to a failed contraceptive?
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Well sue the company
then get the abortion
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Originally posted by Bea.
Pretty much everyone has mentioned that
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I guess I didn't read properly? I didn't see it.
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Member Since: 6/16/2010
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Originally posted by ****y On Venus
Exactly.
The only person who should have an opinion on whether or not a woman should keep a child is the father of the child.
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Agreed. Ignore the pushy parents too. It's your life not theirs.
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
Well there are many cases where the soon-to-be biological mother is able to choose a family for her child.
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Yes, most adoption cases have a happy ending. But what about the women who are absolutely not ready for pregnant (i.e. rape), are too poor/afraid to receive an abortion, carry the child full-term, deliver a healthy baby, and either end up dropping it off somewhere or murdering it. A good example would be those "prom mothers".
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Member Since: 8/17/2010
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Originally posted by Kworb
Pro choice. The fetus is terminated before it even knows what life is. It's the mother's decision, and only the mother's.
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THIS.
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