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Chart Listings: Mediabase & Radio Formats (August 21-28, 2011)
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Judas is a terrible song, it flopped because the general pop audience hated it.
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Member Since: 8/2/2010
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Originally posted by FAN
Judas is a terrible song, it flopped because the general pop audience hated it.
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I must agree and lyrically people don't wanna sing a long to that it just comes out weird... And the chorus is weak bridge is amazing though
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Member Since: 1/4/2009
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Originally posted by FAN
Judas is a terrible song, it flopped because the general pop audience hated it.
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again it didn't flop outside north america and is one of Gaga's biggest hits in some european countries so that's not the case
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Member Since: 9/16/2009
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'more mediabase ' please
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Member Since: 8/24/2008
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Originally posted by ddeizaguirre
I must agree and lyrically people don't wanna sing a long to that it just comes out weird... And the chorus is weak bridge is amazing though
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Thankyou. That whole song is a mess, from the lyrics, too the terrible production. It just doesn't fit in with todays music, and an attempt to recreate Poker Face/Bad Romance that turned into a poor mans version of both. Just not a good song, and there are much better songs on the album.
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Member Since: 4/2/2011
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Originally posted by nky0411
Don't be overconfident. the Judas Nightmare wasn't expected as well. You can be getting 2m+ update one day and getting negative update the next day.
So, just let it be, and pray the best out of it.
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Okay, Negative Nancy, lol.
"Yoü and I" is a "safe" song in comparison to "Judas", so it has nothing to worry about. The controversy with "Judas" WAS expected.
I'm surprised by these massive updates, though. Can't wait to see what'll happen when the song is sent to radio in two days.
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Originally posted by FAN
Thankyou. That whole song is a mess, from the lyrics, too the terrible production. It just doesn't fit in with todays music, and an attempt to recreate Poker Face/Bad Romance that turned into a poor mans version of both. Just not a good song, and there are much better songs on the album.
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So basically you're saying that in order for a song to be good, it has to be the same boring mess as every other song on radio. What made "Bad Romance" a cultural phenomenon was because it was different. Gaga's the reason a song like "Judas" can be played on the radio. It's a huge, heavy, dark dance track and is one of her best, imo.
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Why is Cheers kinda slowing down?
I mean its not...but it had HUGE updates before.
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Member Since: 5/27/2010
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Originally posted by FAN
Judas is a terrible song, it flopped because the general pop audience hated it.
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Judas is awesome, though, yes, pretty much everyone hated it.
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Originally posted by Anthagio
Okay, Negative Nancy, lol.
"Yoü and I" is a "safe" song in comparison to "Judas", so it has nothing to worry about. The controversy with "Judas" WAS expected.
I'm surprised by these massive updates, though. Can't wait to see what'll happen when the song is sent to radio in two days.
So basically you're saying that in order for a song to be good, it has to be the same boring mess as every other song on radio. What made "Bad Romance" a cultural phenomenon was because it was different. Gaga's the reason a song like "Judas" can be played on the radio. It's a huge, heavy, dark dance track and is one of her best, imo.
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I see you failed to note that i said I hated the lyrics, the production was a mess, and it was a poor attempt at recreating previous hits. The song is crap, okay you can say it was different, but GaGas done it all before.
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Member Since: 1/17/2011
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Originally posted by MrPeanut
Judas is awesome, though, yes, pretty much everyone hated it.
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IMO it's the best song on BTW along with GH.
btw, has Judas reached platinum?
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 11/14/2008
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Originally posted by KRL
If it was bad it would flop everywhere, not just in in english-speaking countries. it was huge in Europe and is still Gaga's most played song among last.fm listeners http://www.last.fm/charts
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iTunes chart didn't reflect that it was a fan favorite, but IDK. The song really was bad and I think TEOG should have been released as the second single. TEOG is 10x better of a song than Judas.
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Member Since: 9/18/2010
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Originally posted by FAN
Judas is a terrible song, it flopped because the general pop audience hated it.
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Judas flopping had less to do with how terrible the song is and more with how controversial it is. Religion is a really touchy subject and I think Judas pushed the boundaries a little too much to ever have serious mainstream hit potential. The song being terrible is not only subjective but irrelevant considering how many terrible songs make it to the top all the time.
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Originally posted by foxaylove
iTunes chart didn't reflect that it was a fan favorite, but IDK. The song really was bad and I think TEOG should have been released as the second single. TEOG is 10x better of a song than Judas.
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Exactly. If the public really liked it, it would have sold regardless, did it even go Platinum? The Edge Of Glory was much better, but Marry The Night is even better than that,
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Member Since: 4/2/2011
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Originally posted by FAN
I see you failed to note that i said I hated the lyrics, the production was a mess, and it was a poor attempt at recreating previous hits. The song is crap, okay you can say it was different, but GaGas done it all before.
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I see you failed to note that you're basing your opinion on things that aren't true, hehe.
Gaga was obv. going for a similar sound, but the only song it sounds like (in relative terms) is "Bad Romance". I don't expect you to have taste, though.
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Originally posted by FAN
Exactly. If the public really liked it, it would have sold regardless, did it even go Platinum? The Edge Of Glory was much better, but Marry The Night is even better than that,
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It did sell, and quite well WW. The American market didn't pick it up because of the controversy, but it being the most played on Last Fm proves that people do in fact like it.
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Originally posted by foxaylove
iTunes chart didn't reflect that it was a fan favorite, but IDK. The song really was bad and I think TEOG should have been released as the second single. TEOG is 10x better of a song than Judas.
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"Judas" is a fan favorite. Like I said, Last Fm reflects that.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by F.A.M.E
Judas flopping had less to do with how terrible the song is and more with how controversial it is. Religion is a really touchy subject and I think Judas pushed the boundaries a little too much to ever have serious mainstream hit potential. The song being terrible is not only subjective but irrelevant considering how many terrible songs make it to the top all the time.
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Not that appealing, radio-friendly or iTunes-friendly should be used instead.
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Originally posted by Anthagio
I see you failed to note that you're basing your opinion on things that aren't true, hehe.
Gaga was obv. going for a similar sound, but the only song it sounds like (in relative terms) is "Bad Romance". I don't expect you to have taste, though.
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Taking a dig at my signature i see
Funny because my #1 fave of all time, Kelly Clarkson, has been labled the voice of our generation by many highly respected people, and could sing circles around Lagy GaGa.
you tired though.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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How much has "Judas" sold in the U.S.? Like 800k?
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Member Since: 2/22/2008
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Let's hope "IWG" gets a +1,000 update tomorrow. If it does, we'll get the 100m
I'm loving the "Y&I" love
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 11/14/2008
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Originally posted by Anthagio
I see you failed to note that you're basing your opinion on things that aren't true, hehe.
Gaga was obv. going for a similar sound, but the only song it sounds like (in relative terms) is "Bad Romance". I don't expect you to have taste, though.
It did sell, and quite well WW. The American market didn't pick it up because of the controversy, but it being the most played on Last Fm proves that people do in fact like it.
"Judas" is a fan favorite. Like I said, Last Fm reflects that.
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Judas had the 2nd single hype, naturally people were going to snatch it up right at its release, but it started to fall real fast after awhile. Again, if it was liked that much by people, it would have sustained its presence on iTunes.
OH and as for your "cute" little shade....you can meet me in NHB for my response.
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Member Since: 1/4/2009
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judas did flop commercially, but people do like and listen to the song. it doesn't have 100m youtube views for nothing + as I said in another post it's still Gaga's most played song on last.fm. it's bigger than born this way and the edge of glory combined here
back on topic.. is you and i going to be sent to non-pop radio officially?
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