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Discussion: The moment you die:
Member Since: 5/18/2011
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
So I, a non-believer, who live my life as peacefully as possible, don't break a law and try to treat people as nicely as I can will go to hell and a believer who has murdered people and lived amorally all of his life and "repents" all his sins before death goes to heaven? I say ********.
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That itself is basically calling God a bigot. He is punishing you for not having the same beliefs as him or his followers. I don't get it.
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
So I, a non-believer, who live my life as peacefully as possible, don't break a law and try to treat people as nicely as I can will go to hell and a believer who has murdered people and lived amorally all of his life and "repents" all his sins before death goes to heaven? I say ********.
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You have a chance to redeem yourself, because there are 2 deaths according to the bible..
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Hades is only a temporary place for the dead until they are judged in the final judgment, (Revelation 20:11-15). At that time, the sea, death, and Hades will give up the dead for judgment. "Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:14). Therefore, when Jesus spoke of Gehenna with its continuous fire in Mark 9, he must have been referring to the lake of fire, not to Hades.
After the final judgment, there will be "a new heaven and a new earth", (Revelation 21:1). The Apostle John "saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God." (Revelation 21:2). John "heard a loud voice from the throne saying, 'Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.'" (Revelation 21:3). This passage plainly teaches that God's dwelling place will change from heaven to the earth. It is further confirmed by a following passage. "The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendor into it. On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there. The glory and honor of the nations will be brought into it." (Revelation 21:23-26).
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like thinking that I could be thrown into a lake of fire after I die is so damn scary. ='(
but my faith is with Jesus, so even if I were, i would still love him.
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Member Since: 5/18/2011
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Originally posted by Mąni Lιn`Dεε
I don't see tht as being mean. If you read the bible & still doubt God's existence, I'm pretty sure that doesn't feel good to him. & it doesn't make sense to be allowed in a place you have no faith or belief in.. It is sad though
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So what about the people who read the Talmud, the Koran, the Kabbalah, or the Gita? Are they damned to Hell because they simply aren't Christians?
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Originally posted by Kay.Bee
That itself is basically calling God a bigot. He is punishing you for not having the same beliefs as him or his followers. I don't get it.
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Dont.
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Originally posted by WONDA
I did not say Gaga Katy Perry.
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Originally posted by HarrySapphire
You girls need religion. A mess really
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I couldn't imagine life without GOD.
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I refuse to believe that my father, the guy he molested me from the time I was 5 up until I was 13, has a better chance of getting into "Heaven" because he was a Christian and repented his many repetitive sins? Catch my drift?
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I'm going to heaven to be with my Lord and savior.
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Member Since: 12/28/2010
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this topic as gone way to far
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Member Since: 7/19/2009
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Originally posted by stereo.love
Nothing happens. You die, your body is disposed of and the only thing that remains is memories of you. Sorry guys but that's the ugly truth no one wants to admit.
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How do you know that?! You've experienced it before? You died and came back?
NO ONE knows what happens when you die.
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Member Since: 6/26/2010
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Originally posted by Mąni Lιn`Dεε
I don't see tht as being mean. If you read the bible & still doubt God's existence, I'm pretty sure that doesn't feel good to him. & it doesn't make sense to be allowed in a place you have no faith or belief in.. It is sad though
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Ok.
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Member Since: 3/4/2009
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Originally posted by Mąni Lιn`Dεε
You have a chance to redeem yourself, because there are 2 deaths according to the bible..
like thinking that I could be thrown into a lake of fire after I die is so damn scary. ='(
but my faith is with Jesus, so even if I were, i would still love him.
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No that's not scary. Much scarier is to imagine an eternal life, wherever it might be. How do you occupy yourself during eternity?
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Originally posted by BadBitchRihanna.
I couldn't imagine life without GOD.
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That's sad.
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Member Since: 5/18/2011
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Originally posted by Mąni Lιn`Dεε
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I didn't call him one! I just don't agree with the Bible and I think it contradicts itself. I'm not going to disrespect anyone elses beliefs or their God, but I myself struggle to believe it. I've had a troubled life and I guess many would say I just lost faith because I did use to pray to God to come save me from the hands of my dad, the guy who raped me, etc and he never came. Sorry, everyone has their own path and it's hard for everyone to have the same beliefs.
I don't agree with disrespecting anyone's religious beliefs. That's why I hate when people say Beysus, Rihallah, Godtina, Godga, etc. It's terrible.
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Originally posted by Kay.Bee
So what about the people who read the Talmud, the Koran, the Kabbalah, or the Gita? Are they damned to Hell because they simply aren't Christians?
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How would I know? But I don't think Jesus has to be tied to a religion for you to love him. Long story short, if you believe in Jesus & the higher power, there's no way he would punish you for that. The bad thing is denying his existence, & not appreciating the life he's given you to live. Think of God as your parent, he's going to be disappointed of course when you choose to live your life differently than what he wants, like any parent but he still will forever love you. If you deny yourself of that love, then I believe that's something you do to yourself.
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Originally posted by Last Boy on Earth
That's sad.
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Life is nothing without God
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Originally posted by iBeyoncé.
I'm going to heaven to be with my Lord and savior.
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Lie.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
So I, a non-believer, who live my life as peacefully as possible, don't break a law and try to treat people as nicely as I can will go to hell and a believer who has murdered people and lived amorally all of his life and "repents" all his sins before death goes to heaven? I say ********.
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THIS!
I think after your death there's nothing to come..I always imagine what was before I was born..NOTHING ..and I'm sure it will be the same after you die..Who wants to live forever?
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Originally posted by Kay.Bee
I didn't call him one! I just don't agree with the Bible and I think it contradicts itself. I'm not going to disrespect anyone elses beliefs or their God, but I myself struggle to believe it. I've had a troubled life and I guess many would say I just lost faith because I did use to pray to God to come save me from the hands of my dad, the guy who raped me, etc and he never came. Sorry, everyone has their own path and it's hard for everyone to have the same beliefs.
I don't agree with disrespecting anyone's religious beliefs. That's why I hate when people say Beysus, Rihallah, Godtina, Godga, etc. It's terrible.
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Yea your right. For a long time I've struggled with calling myself a christian, but if you're a follower of Jesus Christ, you might as well consider yourself one because thats the whole point of being a follower of Jesus.
Some Christians are just ugh though...
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Originally posted by z|| Mr. Loko ||z
Life is nothing without God
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agree
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