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Chart Listings: Adele returns to #1 with '21', scores TWO platinum albums
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Originally posted by Alexz
What I meant is that she is 2011's British flash in the pan, just like Wino was in her year, Leona was in hers, Duffy was in hers, etc. We have one every year that sells all the records and sweeps all the Grammy's. All of them exprience different success, but in the end, it's more of the same.
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Okay. I see what you're saying. But same could be said for the pop artists dominating the charts right now. All of them experience different success but it's more of the same. This has been the case with all trends really.
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
It's not even like the album was loved to death by critics, the public just seems to think so.
It only has a 76 metascore. While that is a good metascore, it's not even as high as Taylor Swift's "Speak Now" and that album had to endure half the reviews giving it terrible scores just because "she sounds like a little girl and needs to grow up." I feel like the public is what's overhyping this album to oblivion, not so much the critical world, which gave it a warm but not exceptional reception.
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Speaking of critical support, chart success and critical success rarely intersect. If the public is eating up her music, then I think that is more important than a score of a critic's site.
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Album of the Year. I can see this being in the Top 20 albums all year, if they time the singles right. Rolling In The Deep is growing slowly, and so will all of the other singles.
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I do hope she releases a new music video soon. I don't think Someone Like You is getting one.
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And I hope the scratches on the head of Adele's success isn't insecurity for someone's favorite pop star.
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Originally posted by Alexz
To be quite honest, I haven't listened to her songs bar the 30 seconds preview of Rolling In The Deep on iTunes, I'm just not interested in the kind of music she "represents", her image and sound has been donde before. And you just like her now because she's the hot new thing to like just like one time you liked Lady Gaga. And Nicole is starting to shade her because she will outsell Gaga this year. I can read yo minds.
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On the contrary, I shaded her (and her weight ) far more back when I first heard about her than I do now that she's killing it. Remember in the iTunes thread? Recently I've watched live performances and she sounds amazing, so I've started to like her. How can anyone dislike her? The reason I'm "shading" the album is because I honestly don't think the songs are that special.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
But it's mostly a matter of personal taste.
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You know it
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
On the contrary, I shaded her (and her weight ) far more back when I first heard about her than I do now that she's killing it. Remember in the iTunes thread? Recently I've watched live performances and she sounds amazing, so I've started to like her. How can anyone dislike her? The reason I'm "shading" the album is because I honestly don't think the songs are that special.
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You were shading here like there was no tomorrow. I remember when ATRL started to get into her a bit and you complaining about them fat avis or what ev.
Sis just stay off my Adele, because you are switching sides like an Italian.
Wait... Italian?!. God damn it! GAGAONSPIRACY.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Speaking of critical support, chart success and critical success rarely intersect. If the public is eating up her music, then I think that is more important than a score of a critic's site.
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"The Fame Monster" scored a 77 Metacritic, as did "Speak Now" and I would say they are both incredibly successful commercially. "Fearless" and "The Fame" also scored very well, and they are among the most successful albums in recent years.
I do not dislike Adele. She's probably in my top 15 most played artists, but I think this new album is a bit overhyped by the public. But I was trying not to bring my opinion into it, I was just trying to talk about the critical reception.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Speaking of critical support, chart success and critical success rarely intersect. If the public is eating up her music, then I think that is more important than a score of a critic's site.
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Pretty much. Just ask Adele whose opinion she cares about most, the critics or the buying public?
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Originally posted by Peep
You were shading here like there was no tomorrow. I remember when ATRL started to get into her a bit and you complaining about them fat avis or what ev.
Sis just stay off my Adele, because you are switching sides like an Italian.
Wait... Italian?!. God damn it! GAGAONSPIRACY.
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Right, what's this nonsense about me starting to shade her now?
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Originally posted by Boomer
Pretty much. Just ask Adele whose opinion she cares about most, the critics or the buying public?
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Also, as a clarification, many artists would surely be frustrated by this. In a sense, it's true because they want the public to connect with their music, but it's also insulting to a lot of artists for their material to not contain substance that critics appreciate. I mean, there are plenty of bands, successful ones, that have released free albums because they care more about what the substance of their music and what it means (and quite frankly, I'm sure they love the critics eating them up) than the sales.
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
"The Fame Monster" scored a 77 Metacritic, as did "Speak Now" and I would say they are both incredibly successful commercially. "Fearless" and "The Fame" also scored very well, and they are among the most successful albums in recent years.
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They scored very well, but someone like Arcade Fire, Janelle Monae and Kanye West have gotten Universal Acclaim and none have seen as much success as those artists you mentioned. So, critical success and commercial success rarely go hand in hand. The most critically acclaimed albums do not sell well, while some of the worst acclaimed albums sell tons (think of All The Right Reasons going 8x Platinum with a 40+ Metacritic score). Of course there are exceptions.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
Right, what's this nonsense about me starting to shade her now?
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Don't be a queen, just drag ( them).
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
They scored very well, but someone like Arcade Fire, Janelle and Kanye West have gotten Universal Acclaim and none have seen as much success as those artists you mentioned. So, critical success and commercial success rarely go hand in hand. The most critically acclaimed albums do not sell well, while some of the worst acclaimed albums sell tons (think of All The Right Reasons going 8x Platinum with a 40+ Metacritic score). Of course there are exceptions.
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I was mainly trying to point out that it has happened outside of Adele, and has actually happened pretty frequently among the biggest sellers the past few years.
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So any predictions for her return to #1?
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Originally posted by berberocka
So any predictions for her return to #1?
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No, you should find out tomorrow. But I'm thinking 90-95k. I wouldn't be surprised if it hits 100k.
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I can't at these soulless people shading Adele. Please, stop.
The first time I heard about this woman was when she won that Grammy for Best New Artist. I remember that moment perfectly 'cause I wanted Duffy to win that one. Honestly, her debut album is not that impressive. The only songs I still keep on my iTunes library are "Chasing Pavements", "My Same", "Hometown Glory" and "Make You Feel My Love".
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Originally posted by Alexz
Adele is just the continuation to Amy Winehouse, Duffy and last year's British "deep act" with a "big voice" and "classic songs soul feel groove from the 20s, 30s and 40s".
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Don't tell me you didn't enjoy them, Alexz. I know I did, and I still do.
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Originally posted by Alexz
And Nicole is starting to shade her because she will outsell Gaga this year. I can read yo minds.
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Originally posted by Alexz
What I meant is that she is 2011's British flash in the pan, just like Wino was in her year, Leona was in hers, Duffy was in hers, etc. We have one every year that sells all the records and sweeps all the Grammy's. All of them exprience different success, but in the end, it's more of the same.
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At least the UK has been consistent in delivering successful acts with undeniable talent.
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Originally posted by Alexz
What I meant is that she is 2011's British flash in the pan, just like Wino was in her year, Leona was in hers, Duffy was in hers, etc. We have one every year that sells all the records and sweeps all the Grammy's. All of them exprience different success, but in the end, it's more of the same.
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Right on point.
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Originally posted by !!!
At least the UK has been consistent in delivering successful acts with undeniable talent.
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It's not about them making talented people successful, considering one year they worship the person, and the next she's the closest thing to the devil. The only thing the UK public is consistent about is on finding "new" acts to suck off every couple years. Like parasites.
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