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Discussion: Why are mixed-race people black in the US & white in Africa?
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In America white people will opress you if you are even a hint of black
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This is the first time I am hearing africas considers mixed people white.
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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Americans believe in the one-drop rule so if you have even any semblance of black in you, you're part of that group. But it's a bit more complicated than that because you have tons of white-passing people (like Halsey) who are mixed with black but you would never know unless they told you. Those people are considered white by the general populous.
So basically in the US, if you're lighter than a certain shade you're white. If you are darker, you're an other.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Literally EVERYONE considers Mariah black in the US. At least in the black community.
If one parent is black (especially the father), you're black. Same thing applies to Drake and Obama.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Literally EVERYONE considers Mariah black in the US.
At least in the black community.
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She didn't even consider herself black until it benefited her career when she went more urban around the mid 2000s. An old friend of her (Brenda K. Starr) exposed Mariah for referring to herself white when she was younger and saying that nobody would sign her because she was " a white girl who sounded black".
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Literally EVERYONE considers Mariah black in the US. At least in the black community.
If one parent is black (especially the father), you're black. Same thing applies to Drake and Obama.
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But as I said, that's actually regressive, not progressive. It's the supression of an entire identity. Mixed-race people are not black people, and they should be allowed to build their own identity.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by Soapp
She didn't even consider herself black until it benefited her career when she went more urban around the mid 2000s. An old friend of her (Brenda K. Starr) exposed Mariah for referring to herself white when she was younger and saying that nobody would sign her because she was " a white girl who sounded black".
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Might be true, but it's no secret that it's all about what it's your blood.
Mariah could pass off as white, but the minute anyone hears her father is African-American, it's a wrap. She loses her "white card"
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by c0caine
Mariah would not be considered black anywhere in the world besides in the US
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Yes she would in europe & australia aswell
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
But as I said, that's actually regressive, not progressive. It's the supression of an entire identity. Mixed-race people are not black people, and they should be allowed to build their own identity.
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It has nothing to do with black people suppressing their white identity & more so to do with the continued legacy of slavery and racism that painted even one drop of blackness as bad.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
But as I said, that's actually regressive, not progressive. It's the supression of an entire identity. Mixed-race people are not black people, and they should be allowed to build their own identity.
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Hmm. We actually have a situation like this in my own family. My cousin (black) has kids with two white women. They are very light skin (even lighter than Mariah).
I always joke with them that they are white, but they HATE it. They swear they black. They can use whatever what they want, but yes you're right, they are mixed-race and should be proud of it.
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Well Atrl says Halsey is not black even tho her dad is black.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Africans do not consider mixed-people "white". It depends on how white you look.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by Superbitch
Well Atrl says Halsey is not black even tho her dad is black.
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She's black, and if they say she isn't, then... Nvm.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Soapp
She didn't even consider herself black until it benefited her career when she went more urban around the mid 2000s. An old friend of her (Brenda K. Starr) exposed Mariah for referring to herself white when she was younger and saying that nobody would sign her because she was " a white girl who sounded black".
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Thats because she was whitewashed by critics and the media. They even reported her anger at these misinterpretations, she's always claimed that she is interracial or black so the person you're quoting is obviously lying
http://www.billboard.com/articles/co...-critics-white
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Friday, the New York Post reported that Carey was ready to 'sock [black music critic] Nelson George' because he called her a 'white girl who can sing' in his Playboy review of her self-titled album.... 'My father was very upset,' [Carey said]. 'It seems that most people don't know much about interracial children.' Womack says the quote was taken out of context, and that Carey and George are friends.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by FAME.
Mariah doesn't even look like a white woman to me. Aside from her being fair and having lighter hair (which im pretty sure she dyes that way anyway) her features, mannerisms, etc. scream POC
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Mariah could pass for Italian, maybe white latina at best. She does not look like a black woman, at ALL. Zero black features aside from her nose (when she first came out).
She's mixed race, not black.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by Damien M
Mariah could pass for Italian, maybe white latina at best. She does not look like a black woman, at ALL. Zero black features aside from her nose (when she first came out).
She's mixed race, not black.
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If you are mixed race, then you are black as well as white.
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Originally posted by Saeju
Africans do not consider mixed-people "white". It depends on how white you look.
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I know of someone with Beyoncé's skin tone who was repeatedly called white during a trip in Djibouti, much to her surprise.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
I know of someone with Beyoncé's skin tone who was repeatedly called white during a trip in Djibouti, much to her surprise.
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That's strange, considering most East Africans are light as f*ck (Ethiopians, Eritreans, Djibouti, Somalis etc)
They probably called her white bc she's American.
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Originally posted by Damien M
That's strange, considering most East Africans are light as f*ck (Ethiopians, Eritreans, Djibouti, Somalis etc)
They probably called her white bc she's American.
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When you watch the Olympics, the East Africans aren't really what I'd call light as f*ck.
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