[6_INCH_HEELS]

Now you know Lemonade will be overrated/not good/etc, like 4 and ST were, until the next album comes out.

4 was overrated until ST was released. ST was overrated until Lemonade was released. ATRL stays backtracking. They don't have to understand it. The GP and critics do.

[Tori Kelly]

It still doesn't do much for me. Cool effort I guess making an album into an entire movie, the overall message/narrative just comes off as pretentious to me

I like when music has a good balance of commercial replayability & depth, Beyoncé's 4 is a perfect example of this. Self Titled went a little more deep but was tolerable and I still used several tracks from it, but Lemonade just went too far for my taste.

It's honestly why I prefer Rihanna's ANTI to Beyoncé's Lemonade. While most would say both went deep rather than commercial for their respective body of work, I can still feel Rihanna's identity in ANTI while I feel like Beyoncé's is lost within trying to come off as this epic storyteller of a story she won't even say if it is true or false publicly. It's shocking to me as well because I have always valued Beyoncé's vocals and put them before Rihanna, but integrity seems to have won me over this time.

And of course there are going to be the people that are just like, "Oh you are racist and don't support 'Black Excellence' if you don't like Lemonade..." but that's such an ignorant overreaction. Beyoncé is an artist first before some motivational black-rights speaker, so if the music just doesn't connect, it doesn't mean me or anyone for that matter despises black-empowerment.

[Lights and Waves]

Originally posted by RatedG²

If you don't like it then you just hate black excellence. No other legitimate reason to dislike it or not understand it

This is hands down, the STUPIDEST post I've seen in the history of ATRL. Congrats!

[swissman]

Probably not. There is so many subtleties.

[Diarrhoea]

Originally posted by bluth

yeah, i love beyonce, i like lemonade and i feel i understand its message to a certain degree, but for me i feel the message is a lot more prevalent in the film rather than the music. it's fourth in her discog for me.

Yeah, 4 > ST > Lemonade.

[swissman]

Originally posted by Tori Kelly

I feel like Beyoncé's is lost within trying to come off as this epic storyteller of a story she won't even say if it is true or false publicly.

Why does she need to say if it's true or not for it to be an epic story? The story is larger than her personal life though so it hardly matters if it's real or not. Anyone who watches it would see that while it has autobiographical elements, there are many things and lyrics which do not relate to her personal life.

[Rev8]

Originally posted by Safe&Sound

Why BeyHives really force all people to like that album, even using black excellence, etc.

This is so petty. Like, if Rihanna made the same album, I believe there is no complusion to like the album. You know Beyonce is not the only writer too, so dont act like your fave experienced every single lyrics from the album

Music affects in different ways to different ppl, you cant push Pitbull's fans to listen Beyonce's because they seek different things in music

[SebaMonster]

People just love to hate Beyoncé, lol.

I mean, if you listen to an album with the mentality that it will have bad replay value and you just stop listening to it without really giving it a chance, then of course it will have bad replay value.

[Eóghan Scherzy]

Who's gonna read this damn book?

Lemonade is a great album. Moving on.

[swissman]

Originally posted by Safe&Sound

Rihanna could hire the same writers, the same producers, and music video directors to make her, her Lemonade

As I said before, there are too many hands involved in this album making that you barely know if your fave experienced every lyrics or not

lol what?
There's no way ever that Rihanna, having hired all the same people, would produce the same end product.

[swissman]

Originally posted by SebaMonster

People just love to hate Beyoncé, lol.

I mean, if you listen to an album with the mentality that it will have bad replay value and you just stop listening to it without really giving it a chance, then of course it will have bad replay value.

A wise post!

[Bad Decisions]

I can appreciate it and I understand the direction and message but as far as the MUSIC goes... it just wasn't for me. I deleted the album simply because it's just not my musical preference (except for Sorry and 6 Inch). 4 still remains on top for me

[swissman]

Rewatching it, you see all these new things and feel new emotions.

For example, I loved noticing recently that in Don't Hurt Yourself she's shown in the black and white scene looking ghostly and in a white (bridal-looking) gown. This vision of an angry, hurt bride goes with the content of the song, but then later the same scenes are shown in colour and the gown is actually red, a powerful symbolic colour that completely changes the meaning of the wedding gown.

[swissman]

Also, the scene in Forward when all these beautiful black ladies and Beyoncé herself are passively sitting in these great southern trees, at different levels, calm and almost ghostly in the same type of tree that were used to hang black people ... it's so intense and beautiful ...

[6_INCH_HEELS]

Not everyone HAS to like the album. Y'all should learn to stop trying to force your opinions on others. There are somethings that just aren't for some people.

[taylor__fan]

I don't think nobody says that Lemonade is a bad album at all, but it's true that it's overrated because it's a Beyonce album and Beyonce is the most overrated artist right now, so I agree with the people in the OP.
And I don't get why you think that everybody has to like it..

Even with that ST and Lemonade are good albums and she is a really talented woman.

[keerbyriri]

The message/theme is amazing; musically, it's not that amazing, and quite overrated imo. The whole project seems a bit forced, not sure how to explain it.

I loved 4/ST but I got over Lemonade in a mere few weeks of listening.

[swissman]

Originally posted by taylor__fan

I don't think nobody says that Lemonade is a bad album at all, but it's true that it's overrated because it's a Beyonce album and Beyonce is the most overrated artist right now, so I agree with the people in the OP.
And I don't get why you think that everybody has to like it..

Even with that ST and Lemonade are good albums and she is a really talented woman.

It’s fine if you or anyone doesn’t like it. But that doesn’t mean it’s overrated.

Clearly many people like it. Clearly many critics with their educated and experienced opinions like it. Beyoncé is indeed highly rated. Whether or not you feel she is overrated, doesn’t change the fact that in the world of pop, no one is coming close to doing it like she does in both album, era structure as well as stage performance. And because of these things, she is rated so highly.

I really wonder if Beyoncé with all her skills and acumen is considered overrated, then what is a popstar who produces generic pop songs from go-to producers who barely can carry a note on stage considered?

(This is not directed at you per se, just at the idea that she's overrated).

[OnMyCoolJ]

atrl is not known for its exquisite taste, so lemonade is just above the level their taste buds are able to reach

[blackbeatxx]

the effort

i agree tho, well put