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Originally posted by inspiration4
What?
There's so much wrong with this post. From you essentially attributing all of South America's problems to the U.S, as if no person on that contingent played a part, to putting capitalism & socialism on the same level in terms of success and failure. Not to mention I'm sure you're mixing up the US & old world Spain/Britian in reference to "killing more indigenous people".
Furthermore, what countries in South America are "collapsing" right now other than Venezuela? And for the one's that are struggling, how do you directly attribute that situation to the fault of the U.S.? And why would anyone want to destroy the agriculture in South America when we depend on it for ourselves (hello Chile).
Can you explain any one of the many claims you made?
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To break down your questions:
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attributing all of South America's problems to the U.S
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I never said the US is to solely blame nor do they carry the fault for all problems - neither did I only mention the US as the only aggravator or instigator to blame. These issues are complex and severely nuanced, so to make broad generalizations like "Socialism is cancer" and to attribute ALL blame to EVERY issue on socialism is not only intellectually dishonest, its simply cruel and violent to the people in socialist countries suffering from other issues. If you remove socialism, many issues will still exist. I hope you get on the poster who made such a terribly obtuse generalization as you are getting on my posts.
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Not to mention I'm sure you're mixing up the US & old world Spain/Britain in reference to "killing more indigenous people".
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Are Spain and Britain not Western countries? Are Spain and Britain not first world countries? I clearly mentioned both and the US as several members of an overall dangerous group.
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Furthermore, what countries in South America are "collapsing" right now other than Venezuela?
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You don’t believe countries from Brazil to Argentina to Honduras (if you include Central America) have had varying degrees of economic crisis in the last decade? If you open the question up to all of Latin America as well, you don't believe
any countries in the Caribbean have experienced economic crisis at all, currently, or in the past decade?
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how do you directly attribute that situation to the fault of the U.S.? And why would anyone want to destroy the agriculture in South America
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Again, you're making false assumptions. I never said all issues are due to the US, I said it's ignorant to pretend that first world imperialist powers haven't had "any" influence to the current issues inflicted on South America currently and in the past 2-3 decades, which the poster I quoted did by assigning all and any blame to socialism. It's also ignorant to pretend things like corruption (which is actually encouraged in capitalism) and greed don't exist in socialist countries. Both socialism and capitalism have their flaws and it's gross for the person I quoted to use a thread to bring attention to suffering to springboard their personal issues with ideologies. I'm sure they'd get angry if someone commented "Capitalism is a cancer" on an article about the poor in the US.
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Originally posted by Uzi
Socialism fails just as much as capitalism? Name one successful socialist country.
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I will when you name one capitalist country that has no poverty or those dying from being poor, though it's unfair to the thread maker to take over their thread on an argument about socialism vs. capitalism.