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Discussion: Is Janet's success overrated?
Member Since: 1/6/2014
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Underrated lol
but again who still cares what ATRL thinks
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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If you seriously look at her stats and think her success is overrated then you're honestly just a plainly a hater.
She's been a bigger inspiration to two generations coming after her than most artists have, so.
Y'all keep trying it, though...
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by HonourableVomit
If they know Britney Spears then they inadvertently know Janet Jackson.
Why are Madonna, Celine, Mariah and Whitney there? The other girls will never have:
Janet holds the record for the most consecutive top 10 hits on the US Billboard Hot 100 singles chart by a female artist with 19.
As of 2016:
http://www.billboard.com/charts/grea...ot-100-artists
#7
above the pedophile
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I guess you can't have a discussion without giving in to stan culture and throwing out nicknames.
Okay, that's great and all. So she has the stats to back it up, so why is her impact and success constantly brought into question unlike Madonna, Celine, Mariah or Whitney? There's obviously something wrong here. There's a reason why Janet's impact didn't last like her contemporaries. Superbowl?
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Member Since: 8/27/2011
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Originally posted by Cain
How can someone that's never being talked about be overrated?
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She's had 5 hit threads on ATRL in the past week, where have you been?
Nobody gets these twinks shook like Janet.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by HonourableVomit
If they know Britney Spears then they inadvertently know Janet Jackson.
Why are Madonna, Celine, Mariah and Whitney there? The other girls will never have:
Janet holds the record for the most consecutive top 10 hits on the US Billboard Hot 100 singles chart by a female artist with 19.
As of 2016:
http://www.billboard.com/charts/grea...ot-100-artists
#7
above the pedophile
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Except Janet is not even 1/10 as big as MJ so that list is useless
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by A Little Unruly
If you seriously look at her stats and think her success is overrated then you're honestly just a plainly a hater.
She's been a bigger inspiration to two generations coming after her than most artists have, so.
Y'all keep trying it, though...
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I don't think her success is overrated, I think she as an artist and as a performer is overrated. That's subjective, and guess what, we are all entitled to a subjective opinion.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by K$Ellie
Except Janet is not even 1/10 as big as MJ so that list is useless
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I mean Thriller alone outsold most of her discography.
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Member Since: 4/29/2011
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Originally posted by Ryann
That's why I asked "which stats in particular".
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She's only one of 6 artists to have a #1 in three separate decades.
She has TWENTY FIVE consecutive top ten hits on the R&B chart.
She has EIGHTEEN consecutive top 10s on the Hot 100, only bested by Elvis and The Beatles.
She has topped the BB200 in 4 consecutive decades.
And this isn't even half of her stats.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by K$Ellie
Except Janet is not even 1/10 as big as MJ so that list is useless
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She would never have even had one hit if she wasn't MJ's sister. That's just a fact. The disrespect to the king in here
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
Because you can't deny my statement, you refer to my sig in a last ditch attempt to bait. Do better, because that doesn't bother me in the slightest
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omg i thought you were trolling....
you're ACTUALLY serious
just to remind you
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Member Since: 8/27/2011
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Originally posted by Ryann
I guess you can't have a discussion without giving in to stan culture and throwing out nicknames.
Okay, that's great and all. So she has the stats to back it up, so why is her impact and success constantly brought into question unlike Madonna, Celine, Mariah or Whitney? There's obviously something wrong here. There's a reason why Janet's impact didn't last like her contemporaries. Superbowl?
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The Super Bowl, she made a lot of mediocre music from 2001-2009, Michael's fall from grace kinda smudged the Jackson brand as a whole imo.
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
She's very very local to the US.
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Also this is a myth, Control is at 14,000,000 worldwide with only 5x Platinum certifications from the US. Rhythm Nation at 20,000,000 worldwide with only 6x Platinum certifications from the US. Same numbers for janet. and The Velvet Rope did decently outside the US too.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by sweetheart
Maybe but, bey confirm to be a jackson family stan
Try again
Love her so much
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is bey being a michael stan (and he was her number 1 stan) supposed to answer the question of this thread?
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Member Since: 4/6/2014
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Yes, extremely overrated, as well as her "impact". She was never ever at the same level as her peers and she is forgotten today.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
She would never have even had one hit if she wasn't MJ's sister. That's just a fact. The disrespect to the king in here
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So why are all the other jacksons one hit wonders? Janet is successful in her own right.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by HonourableVomit
She's had 5 hit threads on ATRL in the past week, where have you been?
Nobody gets these twinks shook like Janet.
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Ya, I know, but ~200 homo's discussing on a forum =/= the GP.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by fememeist
omg i thought you were trolling....
you're ACTUALLY serious
just to remind you
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The desperation to bait.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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How can her success be "overrated" either she had it or not... I don't know much about her artistic work and the only song with her in it I can name you is "Scream" which is quite telling of her "impact" over here. I cannot judge and maybe she was huge in the US but definitely not over here and her legacy didn't last. No matter how long the essays her fans will write, she is completely irrelevant and most of her peers are way more relevant as of 2016. Musically she really is a non-factor. She has to be thankful to have been born MJ sister tbh :rolls:
I only know that she is MJ sister and that she also was a super dancer. Her fans may not see it but her legacy didn't pass the test of time . Some R&B artists from last generation might still be influenced by her
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Bey_Rihstan
n
So why are all the other jacksons one hit wonders? Janet is successful in her own right.
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That's not what I said though. Comprehension is key honey.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ryann
Okay, that's great and all. So she has the stats to back it up, so why is her impact and success constantly brought into question unlike Madonna, Celine, Mariah or Whitney? There's obviously something wrong here. There's a reason why Janet's impact didn't last like her contemporaries. Superbowl?
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I think it's because she didn't bring anything new to the table, she did exactly what her brother Michael did when it came to music sound and performances, hence why her legacy is overshadowed by his bigger impact + she wasn't know for controversy (besides Superbowl) and private life. It was only focused on her music art, and seeing as her music wasn't anything groundbreaking, just good music, her impact and legacy is minimised
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by OnikaSlays
Most young people haven't heard of Celine Dion, Aretha Franklin, and Barbara Streisand either so do they not have impact?
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Everyone knows who Celine Dion is, MHWGO is an absolute classic. Way more people know of Aretha Franklin than Janet Jackson despite Aretha peaking two or three decades earlier. Everyone knows Barbara Streisand because of the Ducksauce song.
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