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Discussion: Is $15 unreasonable for fast food workers?
Member Since: 4/17/2012
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Ignoring the conversion rate, fast food workers over here in the U.K. get around minimum wage - £7.50 (iirc?) an hour.
£15 / hour is something you'd expect from a graduate-entry job if lucky // after a year or two in one if not.
I'm not sure about living costs in the US but this movement doesn't really scale up, considering that fast food jobs don't really call for qualifications, has a large pool of potential and quick turnover of workers, and is normally used as an interim to get to somewhere else.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Fast food workers should be tipped and paid more!
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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No. You shouldn't work 40 hours a week and live in poverty.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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It should be $11, the middle of both then everyone can shut up about it for a few years. Tired of hearing people argue that fast food is meant for high school and college kids, not adults with families. Ok, thats a nice thought but unfortunately that isn't how it is in our country. More and more families are depending on these minimum wage jobs as a source of income, it doesn't matter who you think should be employed at these jobs, it matters who is employed. I'm sure people were saying the same thing when minimum wage was raised from $5 to $7. The people who argue as to why it shouldn't be raised are the same people who go to the grocery store and complain about how the cost of living has drastically increased from 5 years ago when they get their receipt.
The insults thrown at people who are just trying to bring change into millions of workers lives is gross. America is so quick to look down on anyone who is out of work, out of a home or on welfare but then are even quicker to insult a middle aged woman who is working in fast food to support herself and her family.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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People do know that the $15 an hour thing is for ALL jobs, not just fast food, right?
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Not really. If they're working full time (40 hours a week) and doing their job then they shouldn't have to live in poverty
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Hell no. They deserve minimum wage which is like 7.50
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Originally posted by Oxidane
Ignoring the conversion rate, fast food workers over here in the U.K. get around minimum wage - £7.50 (iirc?) an hour.
£15 / hour is something you'd expect from a graduate-entry job if lucky // after a year or two in one if not.
I'm not sure about living costs in the US but this movement doesn't really scale up, considering that fast food jobs don't really call for qualifications, has a large pool of potential and quick turnover of workers, and is normally used as an interim to get to somewhere else.
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$15 would be £10.36
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by MissAmericanDream
It should be $11, the middle of both then everyone can shut up about it for a few years. Tired of hearing people argue that fast food is meant for high school and college kids, not adults with families. Ok, thats a nice thought but unfortunately that isn't how it is in our country. More and more families are depending on these minimum wage jobs as a source of income, it doesn't matter who you think should be employed at these jobs, it matters who is employed. I'm sure people were saying the same thing when minimum wage was raised from $5 to $7. The people who argue as to why it shouldn't be raised are the same people who go to the grocery store and complain about how the cost of living has drastically increased from 5 years ago when they get their receipt.
The insults thrown at people who are just trying to bring change into millions of workers lives is gross. America is so quick to look down on anyone who is out of work, out of a home or on welfare but then are even quicker to insult a middle aged woman who is working in fast food to support herself and her family.
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The people on this forum are so naive when it comes to the real world.  As are most Americans who live in privilege.
5 years ago I would have agreed that it was too much for fast food but when see real people in those situations, it changes you. I lucked out with my job, not having student debt, etc but I don't deny that not everyone is that lucky.
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Member Since: 1/6/2014
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It's way too high 
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Member Since: 3/24/2012
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We don't want you on government assistant!!!!! but we don't want to pay you enough so you don't need it!!!!
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a millennial: i work three jobs and still don't make enough to live comfortably or save for my future
a baby boomer: well then why don't you have four jobs?
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Member Since: 4/17/2012
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Originally posted by Adonis
If all those people simply refused to stop working fast food jobs? Then what? People who work in the food industry deserve as much respect as anyone else... computers and gadgets are not necessities. Food is and everyone can't just go eat lunch at home everyday or presumably they don't have time or simply don't know how to make their own meals. Lets do some math here....
customers served in one hour X dollar amount + number of customer hours X average salary for each customer in an hour (each customer would lose an hour of work trying to make their own food and eat it themselves) = ???
Now lets say you have 10 customers spending an average of $10 each and lets say they make $25 / hr
10 * 10 + 10 * 25 = $350 / hour
If the average salary is higher then it's more... if the # of customers is more than 10 it is more.... etc and vice versa
Yeah these people need to be paid $20 / hr when considering they have millions of people's health in their hands literally. If the fast food was taken away until people were paid more I guarantee people would have no trouble giving these people $20 / hour or people would change their behavior away from fast foods to something else. Either way it's a win win.
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 I'm not sure if you're actually being serious...?
We're talking about fast food here.
Even if we were talking about food prep. in general, I can think of a handful of other jobs more deserving of a raise to the figure you suggested where the health of millions of people are more literally in their hands.
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Member Since: 3/14/2013
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Edit: Yes, it is unrealistic.
None of you even understand basic economics. Our economy cannot sustain an across the board raise for entire industries like that. It would cause a massive unemployment that would almost rival the Great Recession. Too many business cannot afford to pay all their payroll at that high of a wage. It needs to be a very gradual increase.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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$10 -$12 with opportunities to move up. Its that simple really.
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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im switzerland it's 21$
but the food at mcd etc is also more expensive obv
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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I live in Canada and I (for the time being) make minimum wage which is 11$. I personally don't think fast food should be making that much.. However.. It's almost like you NEED to have a roommate or a significant other to live a somewhat decent life. If I didn't have my partner, I would probably live in a really ceappy apartment in the most dangerous end of the city eating mcdonalds everyday.
I would not be able to afford rent, bus (in need be), bills (water, heat, electricity etc), entertainment (you would go crazy if you didn't have tv or Internet in your home, i went crazy before, wasn't a good experience), organic food (because that is what most people preach that you should eat which is way more expensive), clothing (when need be), the gym (because you know the government, fitness, random people preach that you should be healthy blah blah blah).... I would not be able to do all that by myself. Thank god I have a partner, where we both contribute..
You know I know so many people that have roommates. And they are older and have somewhat decent jobs. I know somebody who is a school teacher that has roommates. It's just not possible to live a productive, happy life with a wage that doesn't cover it. All you can do is watch tv because that is what you can afford. What? Go for a walk ouuuu. I can honestly say that you need money to be happy/have some sort of social life..
I've heard that to live a life like I describe, you should be making at least 25$ an hour. You want to own a home and have everything else I described? 30$ an hour? Have children perhaps 45$ an hour?
I've heard these numbers from people I know that I've had convos with, studies, tv, myself even. I really ****ing hate life, like a lot .
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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very unreasonable. I get that having to stay in a crowded, confined space for hours a day while dealing with a bunch of rude customers is frustrating but $15 an hour frustrating? no.
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Member Since: 2/20/2012
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Originally posted by Mike91
No. You shouldn't work 40 hours a week and live in poverty.
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Originally posted by Marvin
Not really. If they're working full time (40 hours a week) and doing their job then they shouldn't have to live in poverty
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Sounds reasonable when they chose that career path instead of working toward a better job and better life.
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Member Since: 3/4/2014
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$7.5 is a horrible minimum wage, it's nothing 
Off course they deserve that and more, something around 12-15 would be acceptable
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