[primo.]

This really isn't new information

Many of our beloved "heroes" have shady pasts.

[Bey Admired]

This doesn't diminish any of his greatness. In fact, all it does is to perpetuate and enforce the idea that no one is wholly 'one thing'. We are human. That means we have our flaws and faults, whilst we also have about ourselves the traits and actions that make us kind and a possible revolutionary. These personality dichotomies can coexist as mutually exclusive traits. To post this article as if it in anyway diminishes the great work Gandhi did is absolutely absurd.

It's also important to note that, like many of our ancestors, Gandhi grew up in an era where these ideas where echoed and proliferated throughout the world. Not that this is an excuse, but it's crucial to mark the contextual era with which we are talking about here.

Gandhi wasn't perfect and he had major flaws, but he was also great and a revolutionary.

[Grumpy Gills]

Originally posted by ToxDuris

You need to stop with these vice articles. They are clearly fabricating them for clicks.

Maybe you should do some research before just saying things.

[Silence.]

A man in the 1930s and grew up in a racially tense society grew up majorly flawed and not a black and white figure like history decided it would be more convenient to paint him as? Colour me shocked.

[Eternium]

Originally posted by Inverted

I've met people personally who know that she and her missionaries only helped poor people who were willing to adopt Catholicism. Also, it's been proven her organizations barely served many people and a lot of them were basically funding for missionary work. The international media made it seem like she's helping so many people in Kolkata (pka Calcutta), but local organizations were serving close to 20,000 people daily while her organization barely served a few hundred.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critic..._Mother_Teresa

The fact that every dying person was forced to be baptized is such a bastardization of the religion (granted Catholicism as a whole is a bastardization of Christianity).

Originally posted by Diarrhoea

I mean this is incredibly weird but not really paedophilia

It's not technically pedophilia, but it would constitute as sexual assault of minors under any respectable system of laws and he would be registered as a sex offender.

[Navin]

Originally posted by Bey Admired

This doesn't diminish any of his greatness. In fact, all it does is to perpetuate and enforce the idea that no one is wholly 'one thing'. We are human. That means we have our flaws and faults, whilst we also have about ourselves the traits and actions that make us kind and a possible revolutionary. These personality dichotomies can coexist as mutually exclusive traits. To post this article as if it anyway diminishes the great work Ghandi did is absolutely absurd.

It's also important to note that, like many of our ancestors, Ghandi grew up in an era where these ideas where echoed and proliferated throughout the world. Not that this is an excuse, buts it's crucial to mark the contextual era with which we are talking about here.

Ghandi wasn't perfect and he had major flaws, but he was also great and a revolutionary.

This.

[Tsuko]

To be fair, he does have a point about Indians being put with black people in prisons. Obviously they did that just because Indians have dark skin, but if you're going to group people by race, then based on science, evolution, genetics, biology, etc. Indians would be better placed with white people, because both white people and Indians are largely caucasian. But this goes to show how stupid racism is in the first place.

[Inverted]

Originally posted by Bey Admired

This doesn't diminish any of his greatness. In fact, all it does is to perpetuate and enforce the idea that no one is wholly 'one thing'. We are human. That means we have our flaws and faults, whilst we also have about ourselves the traits and actions that make us kind and a possible revolutionary. These personality dichotomies can coexist, and to post this article as if it anyway diminishes the great work Ghandi did is absolutely absurd.

It's also important to note that, like many of our ancestors, Ghandi grew up in an era where these ideas where echoed and proliferated throughout the world. Not that this is an excuse, buts it's crucial to mark the contextual era with which we are talking about here.

Ghandi wasn't perfect and he had major flaws, but he was also great and a revolutionary.

It's Gandhi* (pronounced Gahn-thee) and I don't agree. There is nothing impressive about his beliefs. He pushed ideas about peace and non-violent protest, but those are ideas are embedded in Hindu/Buddhist culture. He was just a public figure with a platform and international media really pushed him as some big deal.

Of course that doesn't diminish his public work and a lot of these negative things were from earlier in his life, but there is no need to put public figures on such a high pedestal.

[Bríseis]

Hateful people keep fabricating and spreading lies to tarnish people like Mahatma or Mandela all the time, themselves being close-minded people who did nothing to spread freedom and peace unlike them. I am not saying they were perfect, Im just saying they managed to make this world a better place, and thats what matters.

[Inverted]

Originally posted by Tsuko

To be fair, he does have a point about Indians being put with black people in prisons. Obviously they did that just because Indians have dark skin, but if you're going to group people by race, then based on science, evolution, genetics, biology, then Indians would be better placed with white people, because both white people and Indians are largely caucasian.

That's false. Indians are heavily Austronesian just like Australian aboriginals. Only North Indians and Pakistanis are more "white," but they usually still have Austronesian ancestry. Also, Indians and other South Asians in the eastern parts like Nepalese are often part Mongoloid.

[Bey Admired]

Originally posted by Inverted

It's Gandhi* (pronounced Gahn-thee) and I don't agree. There is nothing impressive about his beliefs. He pushed ideas about peace and non-violent protest, but those are ideas are embedded in Hindu/Buddhist culture. He was just a public figure with a platform and international media really pushed him as some big deal.

Of course that doesn't diminish his public work and a lot of these negative things were from earlier in his life, but there is no need to put public figures on such a high pedestal.

Sorry, didn't read it back before posting.

I mean, we basically agree. There's hardly any debate to be had here. We also agree that many of his beliefs are to be held in disregard.

[getback]

Originally posted by Inverted

Vice always posts really old news, but I'm glad it's getting attention now. South Asians already know he's a fraud and western people love exaggerating how great he is.

interesting

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I guess he's a victim of his time. Many important historic figures are like that too. It's not fair to judge them on today's social standards.

[RihannasVeryOwn]

Originally posted by Tsuko

To be fair, he does have a point about Indians being put with black people in prisons. Obviously they did that just because Indians have dark skin, but if you're going to group people by race, then based on science, evolution, genetics, biology, etc. Indians would be better placed with white people, because both white people and Indians are largely caucasian. But this goes to show how stupid racism is in the first place.

He wasnt saying it from a scientific or genetic point of view, he thought black people were subhuman and Indians were above them, and would better be grouped with whites because of that

[fabbriche]

We have never been anywhere else but the present so to judge any historical figure or history in general by the standards of our own day is called "presentism" and is inappropriate. Many of the things that we deem immoral today were once considered normal in past societies so people should avoid applying a modern framework to the past. It's a form of cultural bias.

[Pandora]

Mess. And Gaga used his ass in the G.U.Y video, no wonder it flopped

[FAME.]

I thoguht this was well known already?

[Frankievii]

I thought this was common knowledge, his anti-blackness in South Africa is why most of the country doesn't really care for him and his legacy.

[izzy]

this is not new.stories about Gandhi being all that is being known for years.

[izzy]

Originally posted by primo.

This really isn't new information

Many of our beloved "heroes" have shady pasts.

!!!!

a lot of legendary figures have shady history.


Gandhi is just one of them.people need to realize that this historic figures were not perfect by any means,and especially when you remember in what time period they grow up.

[OnlyXtina]

Disgusting!