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Originally posted by DanceForYou
Unnecessary to say my statement was stupid, tbh.
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Your logic was stupid and unfounded. I didn't call you stupid.
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At the end of the day there have been songs that were heavily promoted and still underperformed - there's more to it than that.
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This is true. However, is it equally common for songs to smash or do well with no promotion?
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You have no proof in saying that either song would have performed a lot better had she promoted it more either so both of us are merely speculating.
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I never said I had proof. I'm saying it would have done better than it did. If you review my contentions they were only responses and were saying that they flopped because of lack of promotion, not that either song would have smashed with it. I wasn't proving anything. I simply stated that the lack of promotion contributed a lot to their underperformance and you challenged that by trying to claim that "artists have flops" and implying it wouldn't have made a difference. That is stupid and needs to be proven. My statement is common sense and backed by basic, fundamental marketing theory.
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Your statements aren't anymore true than mine are.
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How is saying that they would have done better in some way with more promotion untrue? Take your time while you try to explain that.
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I believe the public simply weren't here for those tracks (People Like Us moreso, that's one of her worst songs ever)
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Of course not because very few people heard PLU.
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and I don't think promotion would have changed that.
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That's an okay opinion, but it's not backed up by anything other than itself.
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Maybe slightly higher peaks? Okay, sure. But anything noteworthy? In my opinion, no. At the end of the day, one performance or not, Kelly still gets to perform on some of the biggest shows on television. Not every artist is granted such opportunities and some get way bigger hits than the two songs mentioned with less.
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There's no way to measure that, though. That's all opinion. I'm simply saying lack of promotion had to do with their underperformance, to say otherwise is just stupid. Promotion is directly linked with success. Nothing can be success if people are unaware of it. And please list some. Sometimes artists will have a song gain traction and then they will go onto promote it. That still doesn't negate my claim in any way that the songs would have performed better with more promotion.
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She still performed DS regardless of whether or not it was mashed with Stronger. That wasn't the only time she performed it either.
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It had one performance to itself. And DS did decent, but it was massively overwhelmed by Stronger's success. Mashing it with Stronger didn't help because people get more excited for Stronger... Don't see why that's unfair to say.
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Stronger had peaked by that point anyway (although yes I'm aware it probably still had significant airplay - but it wasn't at its highest point). She could have had another song rising and smashing at the same time if the public loved it. And the fact that PLU came from a GH is really irrelevant. It was still a new single by Kelly Clarkson.
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A new single by Kelly Clarkson with one televised performance before she flew off to South America. All the hype she had about her GH album was absorbed by Catch My Breath which was released 6 months prior. The hype had died and there was nothing else to help hype the song. And lol at "It was still a new single by Kelly Clarkson." Love my fave to death, but her name doesn't carry as much as Beyoncé. That sentence has hardly no impact except to her immediate fans.
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Originally posted by Istan4R
For a summer single? Kelly you better release BR cause thats the only song that will do wonders on the chart from PBP
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They never release Deluxe tracks, unfortunately.
I need Kelly to smah so 