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Discussion: 1989 = Teenage Dream
Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Originally posted by SixWholeYears
TD was global and actually had a 2 year lasting iconic era serving some classics like TD, CG and Firework.
The other one may has the better selling album due to crazy 10 year olds and country fans from her previous eras. But no song is classic nor a global smash yet like CG or Firework were. And 4 singles in, era is already getting wrapped up with WD, if not there'll be a 6th single but i don't see it. Or it will be just a concert video and not a real single.
Anyway the global, Super Bowl record breaking female MJ wins.
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ridiculous!
SIO is already bigger than Cali Gurls and it hasn't even been a year
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
ridiculous!
SIO is already bigger than Cali Gurls and it hasn't even been a year
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SIO is not bigger than CG
In your wildest dreams sweetheart
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Teen Idle
Just because Firework has an iTunes resurgence every 4th July and post-Christmas doesn't mean it's a classic, especially not globally. I rarely ever hear that song here nor is it particularly respected or notable..
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Firework is still played a lot and remembered all over the world. It is a classic.
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Member Since: 1/25/2012
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They do have some similarities, but I feel as if Teenage Dream's singles were much more eventful. All of them are very memorable apart from The One That Got Away.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
ridiculous!
SIO is already bigger than Cali Gurls and it hasn't even been a year
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That's some huge amount of delusion. Please check the positions on Wikipedia, especially the year-end ones. CG even has bigger sales in the US, Taylor's main market.
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Member Since: 6/17/2012
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Originally posted by TheEdgeOfGaga
idk. It's weird, 1989 is obviously a massive, monster success but it just feels like a non-event compares to Teenage Dream. Teenage Dream had so much impact in the pop world. But both eras are very successful in their own right.
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But you're forgetting that around the time of Teenage Dream, we also had LOUD, TFM, BTW etc which were all 'events'. I can't think of any recent era that compares to their ubiquity, and that's because the pop world is changing. 1989 deserves credit for being bigger than all of those albums in 2014/15.
For example, if we compare 1989 to Prism, ARTPOP, Unapologetic etc, the winner is clear.
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Originally posted by Starstruck.
SIO is not bigger than CG
In your wildest dreams sweetheart
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Australia (ARIA)[144] 6× Platinum 420,000^
Austria (IFPI Austria)[145] Gold 15,000x
Canada (Music Canada)[146] 4× Platinum 320,000^
Denmark (IFPI Denmark)[147] Gold 15,000^
Germany (BVMI)[148] Gold 150,000^
Mexico (AMPROFON)[149] Gold 30,000^
New Zealand (RMNZ)[150] Platinum 15,000*
United Kingdom (BPI)[151] Gold 400,000^
United States (RIAA)[152] 7× Platinum 4,700,000[153]
California Gurls 5,498,534
US: 4,700,000
Switzerland: 15,000
UK: 915,000
Brazil: 16,000
Canada: 430,000
Australia: 420,000
Japan: 270,000
Germany: 350,000
France: 55,000
Mexico: 60,000
Italy: 30,000
Sweden: 40,000
New Zealand: 45,000
South Korea: 60,000
SIO: 7,400,000
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
That's some huge amount of delusion. Please check the positions on Wikipedia, especially the year-end ones. CG even has bigger sales in the US, Taylor's main market.
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in your teenage dreams
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Teen Idle
But you're forgetting that around the time of Teenage Dream, we also had LOUD, TFM, BTW etc which were all 'events'. I can't think of any recent era that compares to their ubiquity, and that's because the pop world is changing. 1989 deserves credit for being bigger than all of those albums in 2014/15.
For example, if we compare 1989 to Prism, ARTPOP, Unapologetic etc, the winner is clear.
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TFM was over by the release of TD, and BTW didn't last long. Loud wasn't as big as TD either. Just like 1989 is the winner now, TD was the winner then.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
Australia (ARIA)[144] 6× Platinum 420,000^
Austria (IFPI Austria)[145] Gold 15,000x
Canada (Music Canada)[146] 4× Platinum 320,000^
Denmark (IFPI Denmark)[147] Gold 15,000^
Germany (BVMI)[148] Gold 150,000^
Mexico (AMPROFON)[149] Gold 30,000^
New Zealand (RMNZ)[150] Platinum 15,000*
United Kingdom (BPI)[151] Gold 400,000^
United States (RIAA)[152] 7× Platinum 4,700,000[153]
California Gurls 5,498,534
US: 4,700,000
Switzerland: 15,000
UK: 915,000
Brazil: 16,000
Canada: 430,000
Australia: 420,000
Japan: 270,000
Germany: 350,000
France: 55,000
Mexico: 60,000
Italy: 30,000
Sweden: 40,000
New Zealand: 45,000
South Korea: 60,000
SIO: 7,400,000
in your teenage dreams
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You ain't slick. Wiki and the source say 5.7M.
EDIT: oh, you were reporting the streaming-inflated SIO numbers. Poor you then.
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Member Since: 3/16/2012
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I would t be surprised if Taylor uses the same remix or feature strategy that Katy did, she already did with BB. Without that, people won't buy a single from an album they already have
Hopefully it doesn't feature Ed Sheehan
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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1989 is already the defining pop album/era of the 10's while TD is long forgotten, so no.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
Australia (ARIA)[144] 6× Platinum 420,000^
Austria (IFPI Austria)[145] Gold 15,000x
Canada (Music Canada)[146] 4× Platinum 320,000^
Denmark (IFPI Denmark)[147] Gold 15,000^
Germany (BVMI)[148] Gold 150,000^
Mexico (AMPROFON)[149] Gold 30,000^
New Zealand (RMNZ)[150] Platinum 15,000*
United Kingdom (BPI)[151] Gold 400,000^
United States (RIAA)[152] 7× Platinum 4,700,000[153]
California Gurls 5,498,534
US: 4,700,000
Switzerland: 15,000
UK: 915,000
Brazil: 16,000
Canada: 430,000
Australia: 420,000
Japan: 270,000
Germany: 350,000
France: 55,000
Mexico: 60,000
Italy: 30,000
Sweden: 40,000
New Zealand: 45,000
South Korea: 60,000
SIO: 7,400,000
in your teenage dreams
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Interesting! you're using outdated sales from Wikipedia and old certifications for CG but using recent sales and estimations for SIO?
California Gurls:
US: 5,850,000
UK: 810,000
Australia: 500,000 (It's probably even more by now)
France: 150,000 (It's probably even more by now)
= 7,310,000 from 4 countries
Want me to go on?
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Quote:
Originally posted by LCTV
- "Firework" received mostly positive reviews from music critics, with some noting its catchy melody and danceable beat and comparing it to songs by British band Coldplay
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
Posts: 41,860
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Quote:
Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
You ain't slick. Wiki and the source say 5.7M.
EDIT: oh, you were reporting the streaming-inflated SIO numbers. Poor you then.
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actually i posted TD's by accident
streaming is part of the equation now. deal
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Originally posted by Starstruck.
Interesting! you're using outdated sales from Wikipedia and old certifications for CG but using recent sales and estimations for SIO?
California Gurls:
US: 5,850,000
UK: 810,000
Australia: 500,000 (It's probably even more by now)
France: 150,000 (It's probably even more by now)
= 7,310,000 from 4 countries
Want me to go on?
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take it up with Katy's dusty unorganized receipt thread here
and where are your numbers coming from?
Interesting how its so close yet the songs are four years apart?
Interesting how you're complaining about old receipts when that still gives CG a three year advantage?
Interesting how CG needed three years to match SIO's first?
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
Posts: 41,996
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
take it up with Katy's dusty unorganized receipt thread here
and where are your numbers coming from?
Interesting how its so close yet the songs are four years apart?
Interesting how you're complaining about old receipts when that still gives CG a three year advantage?
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Overall sales are not really close sweetie, CG has sold around 10 million.
Fun fact: California Gurls also made IFPI while SIO couldn't even with streaming included.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
actually i posted TD's by accident
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You clearly didn't. You said gold for UK sales. Both California Gurls and Teenage Dream are Platinum. Try again.
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Member Since: 11/29/2010
Posts: 19,664
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I kinda agree but "1989" > "Teenage Dream" when it comes to quality obviously.
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Member Since: 10/21/2011
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No
TEENAGE DREAM has 5 #1 even 6!
Too bad 1989 no
1 7 milion single
3 5 million singles
69 consecutive weeks inside top 10
1989 could neva
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