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Discussion: Can Beyonce still pull off the Ratchet image?
Member Since: 12/1/2010
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Beyonce is going to do Beyonce. The usual will stay upset, but it won't count where it actually matters
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Member Since: 6/24/2011
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Onika has always been ratchet though...
With Beyonce, this all seems very contrived and forced. I want classy **** like "4".
Let's see how this goes. All I know, is that some Beyhive comments are very hypocritical. If this was Rihanna releasing this, or Ci or Keri, they would be dragged to the PITS!
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by Summer
With Beyonce, this all seems very contrived and forced. I want classy **** like "4".
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You must be new.With her having songs like Back Up, Diva, Upgrade U etc, this should come as no surprise.
I don't understand why you people are acting as if this is something new for her when it's really not. You don't like it? fine. But to say this is "forced" or she's trying to be like some other artists (when she basically brought that rap-singing thing first), you are a damn fool.
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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The Hive claim Beyoncé's always been ratchet, yet all through the 4 era hailed her as the epitome of class and grace.
Sorry kids but it can't be both, make up your minds. Y'all seem more confused than Bey herself.
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Member Since: 6/24/2011
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Originally posted by YeaBey4ever
You must be new.With her having songs like Back Up, Diva, Upgrade U etc, this should come as no surprise.
I don't understand why you people are acting as if this is something new for her when it's really not. You don't like it? fine. But to say this is "forced" or she's trying to be like some other artists (when she basically brought that rap-singing thing first), you are a damn fool.
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I must have hit a nerve or a soft spot, huh?
Anyway, it seems like a major regression for Beyonce. Giving us 4, which is absolutely amazing, to now having this mess. She is simply trying to keep up with the times. However, looking at the big picture, it makes perfect sense.
4 was not a successful era, so she completely stepped back artistically and is heading towards this mess ass direction.
And don't call me a fool.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Yes and I hope she will bring something new to her performances
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by Summer
I must have hit a nerve or a soft spot, huh?
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zzz.
The same album that had Diva on it, had amazing ballads on it.
The same album that had Upgrade U on it, had Flaws & All & Resentment on it.
Even RTW that was on 4 (the same masterpiece that you're talking about) is not much very different:
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I think I need a barber, none of these n*ggas can fade me
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So what? She basically does a song like that every era. Stop acting brand new.
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Member Since: 4/13/2011
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The girls are all mad because she get's praised when she's classy and praised when she's ratchet too,
while their faves are paid dust in either form
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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Originally posted by YeaBey4ever
You must be new.With her having songs like Back Up, Diva, Upgrade U etc, this should come as no surprise.
I don't understand why you people are acting as if this is something new for her when it's really not. You don't like it? fine. But to say this is "forced" or she's trying to be like some other artists (when she basically brought that rap-singing thing first), you are a damn fool.
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"Diva" and "Upgrade U" aren't as horribly offensive and uninspired as "Bow Down/I Been On". They aren't horrible or offensive at all, actually. Clever and fun songs. This is a regression, especially since "4" and motherhood and all the talk about being inspired by feminism and now she's smacking bitches.
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Member Since: 6/24/2011
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
"Diva" and "Upgrade U" aren't as horribly offensive and uninspired as "Bow Down/I Been On". They aren't horrible or offensive at all, actually. Clever and fun songs. This is a regression, especially since "4" and motherhood and all the talk about being inspired by feminism and now she's smacking bitches.
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All of this right here!
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Member Since: 9/4/2012
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She has and she can, but I prefer if she doesn't anymore. She's already done it, so she should find something to take on that she probabaly wouldn't.
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Member Since: 12/4/2008
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How is she trying to be ratchet? Because she was rapping?
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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I think I need a barber, none of these n*ggas can fade me
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Like someone said, that was a lyric on "Run The World" on "4." Beyonce has always been hood. She always tries different music.
No one trashes Rihanna because she makes ratchet music. We trash her because she makes bad ratchet music.
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Member Since: 5/7/2009
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Yas since she started the whole rapping/singing in dc.
ill be putting this in a mix with soldier/backup/diva/upgradeu/indepentendwomenpart2/.
who gon take me off ?
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Member Since: 4/13/2011
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Originally posted by simon
No one trashes Rihanna because she makes ratchet music. We trash her because she makes bad ratchet music.
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I disagree Rihanna makes great music.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by maiko
I disagree Rihanna makes great music.
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I, personally, trash her for making bad ratchet music. When she makes great music, I give her credit. (Example: Umbrella, Dont Stop The Music, Firebomb, Watch N Learn, What's My Name, We Found Love)
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Summer
Onika has always been ratchet though...
With Beyonce, this all seems very contrived and forced. I want classy **** like "4".
Let's see how this goes. All I know, is that some Beyhive comments are very hypocritical. If this was Rihanna releasing this, or Ci or Keri, they would be dragged to the PITS!
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there is a difference between ratchet and ignorant. onika and robin fenty are just some ignorant ass bitches who happen 2 be ratchet.
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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Originally posted by simon
I, personally, trash her for making bad ratchet music. When she makes great music, I give her credit. (Example: Umbrella, Dont Stop The Music, Firebomb, Watch N Learn, What's My Name, We Found Love)
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You are no authority on what's good music. Bow Down is horrible. It is trash. So STFU.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by Percivalx
You are no authority on what's good music. Bow Down is horrible. It is trash. So STFU.
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You have no authority to tell me to STFU.
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Member Since: 5/28/2012
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Always has, always will
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