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Chart Listings: iTunes Discussion Thread (August 2011 - July 2013)
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For yall saying Diamonds can pass Die Young because of airplay since Billboard weighs that the most, I don't think so because the only reason OMN is number 1 is because it has an obscene amount of airplay and an obscene airplay lead against Gangnam Style
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Originally posted by Erik
With 597 singles it would be embarrassing not to hold those titles.
Regardless, her sales never truly match up to her airplay figures. Despite having some of the biggest airplay hits with fantastic longevity since she's debuted, she's yet to reach 5 mil without the help of being a feature. Simply put, her airplay to digital sales ratio is not that fantastic.
Does this mean she's a bad seller? No. Is she a major digital threat? Not in my opinion, especially with this song.
She is doing well in streaming but Ke$ha is doing better, so even if she did pass her there, it wouldn't have a large effect as Ke$ha is doing great regardless.
And I highly doubt Rihanna could pass Ke$ha before the promo hits, unless Rihanna has promo herself lined up before then. if she hasn't managed to do it by now with more airplay, then I doubt she'll do it soon.
(And before I get the usual "But Ke$ha has more CHR/Pop airplay and Rihanna's airplay comesfrom formats that don't buy digital music!!" let me say their CHR/Pop airplay is pretty close now, and with the massive inflation Mediabase uses, it's even closer when scaled down to real numbers. Comparing when they were the same, Ke$ha was always doing better. Plus, even if other formats don't result in as much sales, it's better than nothing. I mean, if it were the case, songs exclusive to Rhythmic and Urban formats would never sell, and they do.)
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Before people reply with the usual 321 singles you need to realize that first, Rihanna debuted way before the explosion of the digital era. Some of her singles didn't benefit that much from Digital sales like the likes of Kesha who debuted at the right time. Secondly, Rihanna doesn't conform to the standard release of singles. She will release songs exclusively to Urban radio, she will release a single one month after the other which will lead them to steal sales from each other which was the case with OG and WMN and she isn't afraid to take risks and not release the safe easy hit like some of the other girls eg CKB and MD coming after S&M.
And about Radio, Rihanna;s Urban hits will obviously have less sales when compared to Airplay because that is what is the usual for an Urban single nowadays. Take Adorn for example huge Airplay yet he is struggling at the bottom of the itunes chart. And before you come in and say that she also gets CHR/pop airplay, yes she does and ends up selling almost identical to most of Kesha's singles with the same airplay.
Lastly, Kesha should be doing better because she has more Airplay and the safe easy hit. You just can't compare it to the mid-tempo ballad that is Diamonds, But mark my words Diamonds will block her, even though i want both to go #1 and have better longevity.
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Originally posted by Tylerbv
Did Blown Away hit #11 again earlier today? Not a third time...  |
 BDT needs to drop faster and Home needs to stop increasing
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Originally posted by I. AX
Before people reply with the usual 321 singles you need to realize that first, Rihanna debuted way before the explosion of the digital era. Some of her singles didn't benefit that much from Digital sales like the likes of Kesha who debuted at the right time. Secondly, Rihanna doesn't conform to the standard release of singles. She will release songs exclusively to Urban radio, she will release a single one month after the other which will lead them to steal sales from each other which was the case with OG and WMN and she isn't afraid to take risks and not release the safe easy hit like some of the other girls eg CKB and MD coming after S&M.
And about Radio, Rihanna;s Urban hits will obviously have less sales when compared to Airplay because that is what is the usual for an Urban single nowadays. Take Adorn for example huge Airplay yet he is struggling at the bottom of the itunes chart. And before you come in and say that she also gets CHR/pop airplay, yes she does and ends up selling almost identical to most of Kesha's singles with the same airplay.
Lastly, Kesha should be doing better because she has more Airplay and the safe easy hit. You just can't compare it to the mid-tempo ballad that is Diamonds, But mark my words Diamonds will block her, even though i want both to go #1 and have better longevity.
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Who knows how much we are never ever getting back together, wide awake, and part of me have sold?!?!
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Originally posted by I. AX
Rihanna's sales have been increasing every week, while Kesha's are declining.
Plus she always does best on the weekends, yet for the first time this weekend she couldn't get passed Bruno.
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Actually, she's been gaining and she is very close to Locked out of heaven....facts please 
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I can definitely see DY hitting #1  |
Amen! So can the rest of us EXCEPT Rihanna stans
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You all know that this thread is about more than just Die Young and Diamonds, right?
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IKYWT just keeps increasing.
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You all know that this thread is about more than just Die Young and Diamonds, right?
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It's not a surprise K$ is a better digital seller than Rihanna, especially with a song like DY vs Diamonds.
48. Thrift Shop
I love this. Surprise hit?
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Originally posted by I. AX
Before people reply with the usual 321 singles you need to realize that first, Rihanna debuted way before the explosion of the digital era. Some of her singles didn't benefit that much from Digital sales like the likes of Kesha who debuted at the right time. Secondly, Rihanna doesn't conform to the standard release of singles. She will release songs exclusively to Urban radio, she will release a single one month after the other which will lead them to steal sales from each other which was the case with OG and WMN and she isn't afraid to take risks and not release the safe easy hit like some of the other girls eg CKB and MD coming after S&M.
And about Radio, Rihanna;s Urban hits will obviously have less sales when compared to Airplay because that is what is the usual for an Urban single nowadays. Take Adorn for example huge Airplay yet he is struggling at the bottom of the itunes chart. And before you come in and say that she also gets CHR/pop airplay, yes she does and ends up selling almost identical to most of Kesha's singles with the same airplay.
Lastly, Kesha should be doing better because she has more Airplay and the safe easy hit. You just can't compare it to the mid-tempo ballad that is Diamonds, But mark my words Diamonds will block her, even though i want both to go #1 and have better longevity.
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IKYWT would be slaying everyone right now if it had radio support, our favs are lucky she's giving them a break.
Also if promo is done correctly, LOOH, DY, I Cry and Diamonds could all have atleast a week a #1.
Lastly I hope SN gains a huge distance on OMN cause I want it to sneak a week at #1, however I know it will be atleast #2...
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Originally posted by I. AX
Before people reply with the usual 321 singles you need to realize that first, Rihanna debuted way before the explosion of the digital era. Some of her singles didn't benefit that much from Digital sales like the likes of Kesha who debuted at the right time. Secondly, Rihanna doesn't conform to the standard release of singles. She will release songs exclusively to Urban radio, she will release a single one month after the other which will lead them to steal sales from each other which was the case with OG and WMN and she isn't afraid to take risks and not release the safe easy hit like some of the other girls eg CKB and MD coming after S&M.
And about Radio, Rihanna;s Urban hits will obviously have less sales when compared to Airplay because that is what is the usual for an Urban single nowadays. Take Adorn for example huge Airplay yet he is struggling at the bottom of the itunes chart. And before you come in and say that she also gets CHR/pop airplay, yes she does and ends up selling almost identical to most of Kesha's singles with the same airplay.
Lastly, Kesha should be doing better because she has more Airplay and the safe easy hit. You just can't compare it to the mid-tempo ballad that is Diamonds, But mark my words Diamonds will block her, even though i want both to go #1 and have better longevity.
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well said sis
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You all know that this thread is about more than just Die Young and Diamonds, right?
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Originally posted by rawwritsmikey
For yall saying Diamonds can pass Die Young because of airplay since Billboard weighs that the most, I don't think so because the only reason OMN is number 1 is because it has an obscene amount of airplay and an obscene airplay lead against Gangnam Style
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Exactly. Both are likely #1s, but pretending like "Diamonds" is light years ahead in airplay is definition of delusional.
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Originally posted by I. AX
Before people reply with the usual 321 singles you need to realize that first, Rihanna debuted way before the explosion of the digital era. Some of her singles didn't benefit that much from Digital sales like the likes of Kesha who debuted at the right time.
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LOL. What, she had "PDR," SOS" and "Unfaithful" that were actual hits before digital sales took off?  The bulk of her catalog is post-2007, including the 3 albums, 25 singles (not exaggerating) between 2009-2012 alone. Weak argument.
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GS gained a lot in the last update 
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Exactly. Both are likely #1s, but pretending like "Diamonds" is light years ahead in airplay is definition of delusional.
LOL. What, she had "PDR," SOS" and "Unfaithful" that were actual hits before digital sales took off? The bulk of her catalog is post-2007, including the 3 albums, 25 singles (not exaggerating) between 2009-2012 alone. Weak argument. |
Imagine how much SOS would've sold if sales were like they are now in 2006. It would probably be her best-selling single behind Disturbia and We Found Love, because SOS was huge digitally.
Rihanna's rhythmic and urban airplay is useful for the Hot 100, but it's useless for iTunes. If you find her pop only airplay for each of her songs, then you can start making comparisons.
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Originally posted by Tsuko
Imagine how much SOS would've sold if sales were like they are now in 2006. It would probably be her best-selling single behind Disturbia and We Found Love, because SOS was huge digitally.
Rihanna's rhythmic and urban airplay is useful for the Hot 100, but it's useless for iTunes. If you find her pop only airplay for each of her songs, then you can start making comparisons.
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People dont realize that Urban radio hurts iTunes sales, most of the time.
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PSY will be performing at American Music Awards!!! Will he FINALLY get that #1? Or too late by the AMAs?
Also saw in TV commercial that The Wanted, Carly Rae Jepsen, Psy and Justin Bieber are all performing. Good job, Scooter Braun!
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#733 - Carrie Underwood - How Great Thou Art
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#733 - Carrie Underwood - How Great Thou Art |
ACM Girls Night Out has been replayed the last 2 nights
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