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Originally posted by rivers
Was reading through the KCE and MissedTheTrain posted an excerpt from the book I haven't read. This infuriates me to no end.
He makes Kelly sound like some self-centered bitch which she is the complete opposite of. I cannot at how he can take credit for BTHE. It's Kelly's song, she wrote it and came up with it. What a bastard. 
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Basically Clive wants her to say, "Thank you Clive for creating me"
After reading some of the stuff that's been posted, sounds like he wants to take credit for her going a more pop/rock sound. Hmm is that why he wanted Kelly to be a Mariah/Whitney/Celine.... you know since they're so pop rock

He wanted "Some Kind of Miracle" to be her first single. "Miss Independent" was released because it tested really well, so they went with it.
Blast from the past... the Behind the Scenes of the BTHE Video. In the beginning she talks about how she and Luke rewrote the song (@1:00) and then Joseph talks about how the video was Kelly's concept and how it was "controversial" (@1:35) The whole thing is fun to look back on.
(It's not embedding)
LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GUxEhquGNY
Fast forward to 2010 and what Joseph wrote:
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If I am to be completely honest here, I've done four Kelly videos, and it seems like I win an edit battle only every other one. When I delivered "Behind These Hazel Eyes" the video commissioner (who no longer works there) wanted to completely re-edit it, but I won that battle. He was slinging scary words like "only wanted to change structure" or only "30% of the edit." He didn't even want to do Kelly's idea in the first place, so he just didn't get it.
http://www.formspring.me/JosephKahn/q/1462205627
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Since Clive was the "mastermind" of Kelly's more pop/rock success then why was the label giving Kelly a hard time with changing her image to fit that sound?
Also, recently thought of these videos. In 2007, when Kelly won a ASCAP award for writing BOY.
Her Acceptance Speech:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA2AqKCizGk
Interview from the same night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91fKRcqxQkA
And Ben Moody talking about how he didn't really change much of BOY, he just wrote the music.
(starts @1:18)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDGwpbYFqQE