Madonna was trained to perform ballet, she has a control of her body that Beyoncé, technically, doesn't have.
Madonna has never claimed to be a flawless singer though she has worked on her vocals and she has proved she can do an excellent job when she wants to/has to (''Evita'').
Madonna has always had a whole lot more of control of her career than Beyoncé (Beyoncé herself admits it).
That's cool man. Beyoncé never claims to be a flawless dancer or singer either so what's your point?
And Yeah, I agree.
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I'd say she's more versatile than Celine tho and I doubt Mariah can rapsing and do Urban as well as Bey. Vocal talent doesn't just mean range (which Bey has), but it also means control and delivery on different levels. Vocally, Bey is criminally underrated.
Well, Mariah is actually a really good rap-singer. Not as good and believable as Bey but that might be because of her 90s music haha.
Betcha Gon Know is that BOP tho.
Also I agree, But Beyoncé is not on Mariah's level of control either. Mariah, in my opinion, is the greatest singer/vocalist I've ever heard.
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Actually no they're not. Artists like Diana, Aretha, and Tina hold a cultural importance that supersedes any amount of album sales and hits that Madonna/Mariah/Whitney/Janet have.
Okay, so in your mind. There's a hierarchy that goes:
Whitney has no critically acclaimed albums. Dead at that link instead of a link of a review praising the album into the heavens. None of her albums ever make the best of all time lists because they simply are not great.
Her best album is her greatest hits collection
Which part of combined the two don't you get. And never did I say that Aretha nor Barbra influenced IWDWS
And yup question existing as to why Whitney ain't deemed impactful enough to join Aretha in the HOF
Talent won.
She's impactful enough for Beyoncé to say "She is our Queen and she opened doors and provided a blueprint for us all." So much for Whitney not building anything. http://www.mtv.com/news/1679065/whit...uston-beyonce/
I think She wins in that trade off. you kinda proved my point. Beyoncé might not be the best at every subcategory, but she excels in every field and that to me, makes her the best
I think She wins in that trade off. you kinda proved my point. Beyoncé might not be the best at every subcategory, but she excels in every field and that to me, makes her the best
So following your logic Bob Dylan, not the best singer or guitar player, is a nobody?
I mentioned Destiny's Child because you implied that "Bug-A-Boo" and "Bills, Bills, Bills" were "innovative." I would think an album that has such "innovative" songs on it would at least be on someone's Greatest of All Time list, but alas. All of this is laughable in the end. And that's why it's been so fun patronizing you. The fact that you tried to correlate album rankings with influence is pure comedy. I had no choice but to oblige, and prove you wrong at your own foolish game. Not only have you been proven wrong, but it's commendable to see you still trying.
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I said Whitney was the greatest vocalist of all time at her vocal peak. Do you need lasik?
You also said Whitney didn't build anything, and your fav disagrees.
yall really think Madonna, Mariah, Whitney and Janet are the beginning and end of female musicians. tragic
While Madge, Whitney, Janet and MC are not the be-all, end-all
of female singers, that in no way makes Beyonce that in any way. See how that works both ways?
yall really think Madonna, Mariah, Whitney and Janet are the beginning and end of female musicians. tragic
While they're not, nor is that inference even made at any point in this thread, as it has already been acknowledged that there are others whose importance is greater, it doesn't make Beyonce the end of all female acts, either.
While Madge, Whitney, Janet and MC are not the be-all, end-all
of female singers, that in no way makes Beyonce that in any way. See how that works both ways?
Nobody ever claimed bey was the beginning or the end of female entertainment. Bey and her fans acknowledge the TRUE pioneers. Something y'all have an issue with.